Thank you for your assistance. I don't know whether the problem is this specific archive missing the relevant material, or is something bigger and more suspicious. Jim Bell On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 03:13:24 PM PDT, John Young wrote: Two citations from: Cypherpunks Archive 1992-1998 (checked only 1995 and 1996, might want to look at all) <[1]http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-92-98.zip>[2]http://cryptome.org/ cpunks/cpunks-92-98.zip Someone quoting you from a 1995 message not in the 1995 packet. From [3]cypherpunks@MHonArc.venona Wed Dec 17 23:17:14 2003 From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" <[4]hal9001@panix.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:10:25 +0800 To: jim bell <[5]jimbell@pacifier.com> Subject: Re: "Deterrence" At 19:17 12/29/95, jim bell wrote: >In my essay, "Assassination Politics," I pointed out that it would be >relatively easy to deter such official-type actions if enough of us simply >said, "NO!" and denominated it in terms of dollars and cents. After all, >with four million Compuserve users, if they each were willing to donate a >penny to see this latter-day Fuhrer dead, that would be $40,000. (Pardon me >if I don't translate this into marks and other currencies.) [snip] >WHEN, exactly, would it be appropriate to act? ----- Before that Tim May musings in 1994: From: [6]tcmay@localhost.netcom.com (Timothy C. May) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:41:54 PDT To: Hal <[7]hfinney@shell.portal.com> Subject: Cash, cheaters, and anonymity UNTRACEABLE MARKETS FOR ASSASSINATIONS To make this brutally concrete, here's how escrow makes murder contracts much safer than they are today to negotiate. Instead of one party being caught in an FBI sting, as is so often the case when amateurs try to arrange hits, they can use an escrow service to insulate themselves from: 1. From being traced, because the exchanges are handled via pseudonyms 2. From the killer taking the money and then not performing the hit, because the escrow agent holds the money until the murder is verified (according to some prototocol, such a newspaper report...again, an area for more work, thankfully). 3. From being arrested when the money is picked up, as this is all done via digital cash. There are some ways to reduce the popularity of this Murder, Incorporated system. (Things I've been thinking about for about 6 years, and which we discussed on the list and on the Extropians list. I'll save this for another time.) My point here is to show how on-line clearing works in conjunction with an escrow agent function.(Esther clears the cash, and can issue new cash to Bob, who "trusts" her that if he does the job, the cash will clear, as she's the escrow agent he's dealt with many times before.) ------------ From: [8]tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 94 14:48:22 PDT To: [9]doug@OpenMind.com (Doug Cutrell) Subject: Re: Black Cryptoanarchy (KKK, monopolies, contract killing) Markets for assassinations--untraceable and unlinkable--have been a topic of discussion for a long time. You'll find them explicitly mentioned in my 1988 "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto." References 1. http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-92-98.zip 2. http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-92-98.zip 3. mailto:cypherpunks@MHonArc.venona 4. mailto:hal9001@panix.com 5. mailto:jimbell@pacifier.com 6. mailto:tcmay@localhost.netcom.com 7. mailto:hfinney@shell.portal.com 8. mailto:tcmay@netcom.com 9. mailto:doug@OpenMind.com