To paraphrase Dickens, "Are there no anonymous prediction markets?"

   On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 11:53 AM Zenaan Harkness <[1]zen@freedbms.net>
   wrote:

     Catalonia update - although rubber bullets are illegal in Spain,
     police are using them, and 4 protestors have now each lost an eye;
     turmoil escalating:
     Â  Spain's Catalonia Crisis Just Got A Lot Worse
     Â
     [2]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/spains-catalonia-crisis-just-
     got-lot-worse
     On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 01:23:06PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
     > OK, ok, slight exaggeration - voting in a secession referendum is
     > illegal, says Spain to Catalonia.
     >
     > Since only States are sovereign, and not people (say the States),
     > secessionist referenda are illegal.
     >
     > And besides, it's for your safety.
     >
     > Crimea is a case in point - with a few million bullets fired,
     blood
     > on the streets and carnage the world has rarely seen, Crimeans
     paid a
     > high price for the reuniting with Russia.
     >
     > Oh, it didn't quite go like that? Oh well, you know, voting is
     > illegal and all... and the State of Ukraine murdering it's own
     people
     > in a genocidal attempt to cause them to "reunite" with the other
     > land, we have a prime example of why the State must, at all times,
     be
     > granted ultimate sovereignty, and the people must be dominated
     with
     > bullets. And missiles. And land mines, shelling, RPGs and
     everything
     > else the state can muster, to establish order in the world.
     >
     >
     > "Democracy" loving Westerners both decry the Crimean's zero bullet
     > referendum (what a concept), whilst demanding the USA's "God"
     given
     > right to impose "democracy" by missile upon any unsuspecting
     nation
     > State that has some excess oil. Or lots of non-excess oil that the
     > USA wants. Or other resources...
     >
     >
     > And on and on the Western "moral high ground" hypocrisy goes...
     > Cue another ridiculous jnn rant in 3 ... 2 ...
     >
     >
     > What a world we live in.
     >
     >
     >
     >
     >
     > Catalonia sets date for landmark vote on independence from Spain
     >
     [3]https://www.rt.com/news/391627-catalonia-independence-vote-date/
     > The autonomous region of Catalonia will have the decisive
     referendum
     > on secession from Spain on October 1, the regional government
     > announced on Friday. The move comes after a months-long standoff
     with
     > Madrid, which decries the vote as illegal.

References

   1. mailto:zen@freedbms.net
   2. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/spains-catalonia-crisis-just-got-lot-worse
   3. https://www.rt.com/news/391627-catalonia-independence-vote-date/