Quoting list member Steve Kinney elsewhere.
   I second this analysis:
   "*sigh* As an old spook watcher and ComSec fan, this article indicates
   to me that some kind of shakeup in Russian collection inside the U.S.
   may have happened. But that is all. The authors of this article present
   as ignorant fools with no background knowledge or competency of any
   kind in intelligence studies and related technical basics. They simply
   repeat whatever Big Lie propaganda our spooks feed them, because that's
   what their publisher pays them to do.
   Note the irrelevant and unrelated "Russian Meddling" propaganda
   narrative referenced again and again in the article...
   Even if the 'new' information presented is all factual, we learn
   nothing new at all.
   Wikileaks co-founder John Young quotes Rolf Mowatt-Larssen, former head
   of counterintelligence at the Department of Energy and a former CIA
   officer who first served in Moscow in the 1980s:
   "The Russians do everything in the U.S. that we did in Moscow."

   On September 16, 2019 1:21:03 PM PDT, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>
   wrote:

On 9/16/19, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:

     Know your disinformation sources:

     And that the article says you've been witheld from and lied
     to and massively taxed for these games since mid 2000.
     And that it's always about their spies, the "enemy",
     not the exact same immoral shit your own country
     is doing to everyone else around the world.
     Nobody cares both sides broke shitty closed source
     Motorola radio crypto long ago, or deployed SDR stingray
     against already public a5/2 cell breaks, or tapped
     internet cables in the neighborhood, or lasered some
     voice off windows, sprinkled USB's in grocery stores,
     sent email attachments, or moled each other out.
     The games just keep going decade after decade after
     decade... tit for tat, no real win, no real loss.
     Except to you... your privacy, your rights, your money,
     your freedom to freely walk the earth as fellow humans
     without all the needless artificial bullshit of government
     rulers on top of you. And in fact your life as you let them
     start their wars over "spying" and "trade".
     Next time try talking with a random... russkie, gringo, chink,
     raghead, spic, shithole, whoever it is each govt tries to ingrain
     other as such as enemy... off the streets of the internet. You'll
     find that once you get past the fake programming of government,
     religion, TV, that they're a general friend, a human, and that you
     have a common enemy over you.

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