No popular insurrection against a modern military has occurred mainly due to the lack of easy and affordable access of smart weapons. A broad interpretation of DD's right to publish its 3D plans might soon lead to practical TOW, Stinger and other smart weapons that could neutralize commonly deployed advanced military tech. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:30 PM Steve Kinney <[1]admin@pilobilus.net> wrote: On 08/29/2018 03:38 PM, Razer wrote: > I wasn't really suggesting using guns to overthow the government. You > might like this explanation of why. > > Randazza at the libertarian legalwonkblog popehat: [...] > We managed to preserve our right to keep military grade rifles and > machine guns, so we all muster down on the Town Common with our guns. We > tried voting. We tried protesting. This is a reasonable time to start > with the armed insurrection stuff. > > So, you, me, all our neighbors, hell our entire city builds a perimeter > around it. We fill sandbags, we all have ammunition, we all have food, > water, supplies, and most importantly, we are all unified and in > complete solidarity. > > And we stand there, resisting whatever it is the government was going to > do to us. > > And then they fly over with one jet, dropping one FAE bomb, and roll in > with three tanks, and in about 12 hours, our "resistance" is reduced to > a few smoking holes. The Tree of Liberty will get its manure all right, > but it will be the manure that you shat out as you ran for cover, as > long range artillery rains down on our town, as we get carpet bombed > from 35,000 feet, and as the sky goes black with drones and cruise missiles. > > We're screwed. As a critique of Right Wing militia fantasies, the above stands up well. But as a statement about armed insurrection in general, it presents a straw man argument: Nobody will stage an armed insurrection against a 21st century government by using 18th century colonial strategy and tactics; anyone who tries it will certainly lose, early and badly. The strategic objectives of modern insurrections rarely include replacing the whole government, and winning tactical options rarely include defeating the national armed forces in head to head conflict; that requires mass defection and non-compliance by the opposing force. Instead, an insurrection seeks "redress of grievances" i.e. radical changes in State policy and procedures. Bringing commerce to a halt via boycotts, civil disobedience, sabotage, etc. reliably produces maximum results at minimum risk. "Economic terrorism" ranks at or near first place in formal assessments of threats to State and Corporate power today. The State exists to provide a stable environment for commerce and to enforce the rights, so called, of absentee landlords. It has no other purpose. When the State fails in these missions and can not restore business as usual by force, the State's owner/operators come to the bargaining table prepared to make concessions. In the United States, the Labor Movement and Civil Rights Movement achieved significant objectives working within this model of domestic political warfare. Competent insurrectionists do not kill people except in self defense; murdering one's opponents only makes it difficult or impossible for the survivors to come to the bargaining table mentioned above. "Off The Pig" was a heavily promoted slogan in the 60s and 70s when the FBI was running "Communist" revolutionary cells in the United States - guess who promoted it, and why? Our rulers and their faithful servants make every reasonable effort to provide the public with pre-failed models of rebellion, and to deny the public access to information about practical populist politics. "Rebel As You Are Told" ranks second behind "Divide The Conquered" among the most necessary, persistent and well funded themes in State and Corporate propaganda today. Anyone who wants to see input from public at large have any impact of State policy and Corporate behavior faces a long uphill climb. Any chance of success must start with basic political education. An example of such: [2]http://pilobilus.net/strategic_conflict_docs_intro.html :o) References 1. mailto:admin@pilobilus.net 2. http://pilobilus.net/strategic_conflict_docs_intro.html