On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 3:52:55 PM PDT, Marina Brown
   <catskillmarina@gmail.com> wrote:
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   On 03/22/2018 04:41 PM, jim bell wrote:
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   > On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 12:30:10 PM PDT, juan
   > <[1]juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
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   > On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 +0000 (UTC) jim bell
   > <[2]jdb10987@yahoo.com <mailto:[3]jdb10987@yahoo.com>> wrote:
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   >> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government)
   >> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I
   >> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of
   >> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others
   >> from that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more
   >> or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have
   >> goods (and information) brought to us.  That will require that
   >> roads
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   >> Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
   > libertarian garbage.
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   > Utter and complete nonsense.
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   >> And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
   > aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and that
   > right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the SEA and the
   > SkY, at least YET.
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   > I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't
   > consider it relevant to the current discussion.
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   >> So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
   > wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy.
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   > I think I already said that I opposed government borders.
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   >> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
   >> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.
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   > Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB eh?
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   >For someone who supports freedom of travel and who opposes the
   >requirement of papers - what legitimate "job" does ICE do ?
   BTW, your quotation makes it appear that _I_ said, "But that's what
   happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB".
   Please go back and show that
   1.  You are addressing my comment.     OR
   2.  You are addressing somebody else's comment.
   >Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs
   >programs to satisfy authoritarians.
   I don't believe I ever disagreed with this concept.

References

   1. mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com
   2. mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com
   3. mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com