On 01/20/2017 09:23 AM, M373 wrote: They received something but if were compromised would be shut down, which should happen if they lose in court. [1]https://c4ss.org/content/47015 I was part of the crew that occupied Courant Physics Institute @ NYU's downtown campus during the post-Cambodia invasion student strike in the early 70s. We had control of the room with the ArpaNet machine... They (Transcendental Students, the local NYU chapter of WU) threatened to take a fire axe to the motherfucker if the police stormed the building but as the police gained entry a day later and forced people milling around and camping in the hallways and classrooms out of the building they pissed on it (probably causing thousands of dollars worth of damage) and melded into the crowd being forced out... Never to be caught. The Riseup birds say they'll destroy their servers with user info rather than turn them over. Their machines. Their control. I believe them. Rr On 01/19/2017 10:44 PM, Razer wrote: On 01/19/2017 08:11 PM, grarpamp wrote: [2]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13007234 Not as if anything should be thought untouchable. I saw something on a twitter feed related to them that said they would be updating it and not to worry and this info is old. Have you checked? Check test 1 2... gpg --verify canary-statement-signed.txt gpg: Signature made Mon 15 Aug 2016 10:01:19 PM PDT using RSA key ID 139A768E gpg: Good signature from "Riseup Networks [3]" gpg: aka "Riseup Treasurer [4]" gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: 4E07 9126 8F7C 67EA BE88 F1B0 3043 E2B7 139A 768E The canary hasn't been updated but the gpg output still shows a good sig (assuming) They could still kill the canary be revoking the key, and they haven't done that. See: [5]https://riseup.net/en/canary Rr References Visible links 1. https://c4ss.org/content/47015 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13007234 3. mailto:collective@riseup.net 4. mailto:treasurer@riseup.net 5. https://riseup.net/en/canary Hidden links: 7. https://c4ss.org/content/47015 8. mailto:collective@riseup.net 9. mailto:treasurer@riseup.net