On 01/17/2017 04:32 PM, grarpamp wrote: iron melts 1811k 1538c boils 3134k 2862c steel melts 1100-1538c depending on alloy content aluminum melts 933k 660c boils 2473k 2470c jet fuel open air burn 1030c to 2500k 2230c [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature Metals weaken significantly and permanently long before they ever reach melting point. I don't EVEN want to get into this. Go get fucking Machinery's Handbook [2] at the library and figure it out for yourself. Cherry-picked inconsequential half-baked garbage data points... That's the (911) truth. Rr References 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinery's_Handbook