Just to add to the discussion if we're busy justifying our existence to
   the whiners...
   A while back there was an active discussion of open source hardware and
   'openfabs' (I took part in that too).
   But more recently (although not quite meeting the openfab ideal) a cool
   little piece of open source hardware appeared based on the RISC V
   instruction set...
   [1]https://www.sifive.com/
   Feel free to discuss, whiners are invited too :P
   Cheers,
   oshwm.

   On 1 December 2016 18:38:39 GMT+00:00, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:42:13 +0000
Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:


     I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.

     Now, here's something mildly entertaining. Somebody started a
     'technical' discussion :
     [2]https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-November/0339
     46.html
     Aaaannnd, the only one who bothered to reply was...me (my reply
     was spot on, technically speaking, by the way)
     None of the whiners who constantly whine about lack of
     'technical' discussion replied. Those are the same whiners who
     constantly post off topic garbage themselves while whining
     about off topic garbage being posted.

   --
   Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

References

   1. https://www.sifive.com/
   2. https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-November/033946.html