The difference is you have the chinese knocking on your front door and are blocking them whereas you are willingly giving the secrets of your browsing across multiple sites to a single organisation whose CEO has links to the US DoD (arguably more damaging and interventionist than the chinese). You will then be profiled and your future actions predicted and even influenced in order to protect the interests of the US MIC. Nope, nothing to worry about from Cloudflare at all :D My advice is: if an organsation touches Cloudflare then you shouldn't touch that organisation. On 13 September 2016 06:31:37 GMT+01:00, Mirimir wrote: On 09/12/2016 11:24 PM, juan wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:09:55 -0600 Mirimir wrote: Ddos attacks are exactly like terrorism. Carried by the same people...at the Department of False Flags. It muct be nice to have such simple answers to everything ;) You really got me Mirimir. We should thank the US military for cloudflare too. The internet really started to work a coupl of years ago, thanks of course, to cloudflare. Don't get me wrong. I hate CloudFlare. It's fucking stupid to break HTTPS security as MitM in order to protect clueless against DDoS. Clever adversaries can takeover sites if their interaction with CloudFlare isn't adequately secured. And I hate having to deal with their fucking CAPTCHAs when I'm using Tor. But as much as I hate US military, I don't delude myself that they're the only assholes out there. Maybe the most resourceful assholes. And the most arrogant assholes. But far from the only ones. It's the fucking Chinese that seem to beat at every SSH server that I run :( But then you'll say that it's just americunts pretending to be Chinsese ;) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.