On 9/11/16 10:21 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 09/11/2016 11:15 PM, oshwm wrote: The bottom line is that you DO NOT believe in freespeech but are trying to convi nce yourself and others that you do. People like you who try to pass off controlled or restricted speech as free spee ch are trying to redefine the term because you are too afraid to accept the fact that you want to restrict others rights to suit your own purposes. True free speech demands that you allow horrible small minded idiots the right t o say vile things in public so that all unpopular but valid opinions can be deba ted and society can grow. Tht seems pretty obvious to me :) In a free and open society, even the invalid opinions have to be allowed. Fools should be allowed to make fools of themselves in public. And other fools should be allowed to ridicule them. sdw