On 9/9/16 4:11 AM, John Newman wrote: On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Stephen D. Williams <[1]sdw@lig.net> wrote: On 9/2/16 12:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:36:43PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: will work to sync up the archives so that the split brain we've been Don't taint the provenance... just as your archive contains only yours, this file should only contain messages from newby's server: [2]https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks.mbox/cypherpunks.mbox.gz You can host your own archives wherever, and people will pick them up and re-host them wherever. You can blend the html index if you want, because it's just a human interface, not a critical source archive. People... Don't use procmail, it sucks. Maildrop is better. Don't use mbox, it sucks. Maildir is better. I still use procmail, a bit, but I don't have a strong opinion there. I always use mbox format. I find it very scalable, although I do roll over to new files every 200MB. Dovecot indexes so well that I'm pretty sure it is faster. Plus, it is likely much faster for backups etc. Depends on how fast your filesystem is. I've definitely seen some sloooow load times in mutt with either format (header cache in mutt helps immensely). I'm using maildir at the moment and about a half dozen different mail clients depending on which device is at hand, and performance is acceptable on directories with 3-4K messages. In a quick check, I have email folders with up to 28,000 messages; up to 15,000 is more typical. In my online email archive altogether, I have just shy of 1 million messages in 713 'folders'. Via: grep '^From:' `find * -type f|egrep -v '[.]cache|[.]log|[.]index'`|wc Thunderbird + Dovecot provides nearly instant access to any email in any folder. Even Squirrelmail works fine. I stopped using procmail a while back - I like imapfilter. The config file is just lua code. It does require an active connection to your imap server of course.... Sounds interesting. Instead of new automatic filters, I use a Thunderbird plugin that allows me to file messages in 20 folders with just a keystroke. I can process messages as fast as 3 per second. Will eventually add machine learning to that. The real hassle for me these days is my spamassassin + amavis + clamd has stopped working nearly as well as it used too. But I've been feeding the fuck out of the Bayesian dbs, and tuning a few rules, and it's getting back under control... Yes, need periodic maintenance and spamassassin --spam updates to make it work reasonably. John It's all good. Thanks for the maildrop hint. I'll use Maildir when I'm up to speed with notmuch, but not before - Maildirs are too slow otherwise for me. Finally - can the new cpunks admin please add a standard subscribe/unsubscribe footer? I referred a friend and they got a rejection on subscription request, so I'm thinking they might have tried using the old domain. Sent them the new mailman url. sdw sdw References 1. mailto:sdw@lig.net 2. https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks.mbox/cypherpunks.mbox.gz