On 9/3/16 5:46 PM, juan wrote: On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:11:33 -0600 Mirimir [1] wrote: On 09/03/2016 01:17 PM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: We are "anarchists" and we do what we want. Anarchy doesn't scale. What will you expect with billion+ people without societal structure? Watch World War Z and then Book of Eli to find out. Anarchy is a beautiful dream. But it's unworkable, except in small, self-selected groups. I'm sure that retarded anti anarchy (and pro state) propaganda is 'on topic' in this list eh? Some discussion of "* anarchy" isn't really anarchy, it is just maybe anarchy to someone fixated on a fixed definition of their favorite system. Or a signal by someone suggesting such a departure. Any real political anarchy has been a failure. If you have proof that isn't the case, then present it. [2]http://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html "Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero, knowledge, reputations, information markets, black markets, collapse of governments." What are the last three words there? What is the whole paragraph? Is it a checklist of goals? Is it a statement that everything is desired for any purpose? Or is it a definition of a term? The whole "manifesto" is a statement of predictions and likely results. The only call to action is a non-specific 'arise'. So remind me who are in continual violation of list charter? Juan more time: you philosophokiddies. sdw References 1. mailto:mirimir@riseup.net 2. http://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html