Alex, in the past, you became my friend because of this ugly thread. The same with Juan. We sent lots of private messages to each other and was amazing a collective work to discover what was happening. I learned to love df, a tor-talk list member, because of this thread. He has a huge heart, very generous. This thread was horrible, a slander, a horrible)lie and now it is an anarchopunk celebration of friendship and sex. Why not? ;) Ah, better avoid the sex thing, because of all the false allegations, of course! Hahaha!!! ;D Because of the JA Group lies, we all discovered how "transparent" and "well structured" is The Tor Project. Congratulations! In the end, that stupid JA Group had some utility to us: - show us a horrible soap opera with bad actors and how the USA government is $ influencing $ the project, choosing leaders and paying its debts! :) -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."