On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Razer <[1]rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:

     On 08/29/2016 03:54 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
     > On 08/29/2016 06:30 PM, grarpamp wrote:
     >> [2]https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-says-foreign-hackers-
     penetrated-0000001
     > 75.html
     >
     >
     > [3]https://s.yimg.com/dh/ap/politics/images/boe_flash_aug_
     2016_final.pdf
     >
     >> The FBI has uncovered evidence that foreign hackers penetrated
     two
     >> state election databases...
     >
     > This is an outrage!  That information is supposed to cost money,
     > dammit.  It's public record and anyone can buy it, so the Russians
     had
     > no business breaking in to copy it.  Cheap bastards.
     >
     > :o(
     >
     >
     >
     There NOTHING here to indicate a hack no less a RUSSIAN hack except
     the
     FBI's "Suspected" say-so.
     "Matt Roberts, a spokesman for the Arizona Secretary of State’s
     Office,
     said state authorities were notified last month by the FBI of the
     ***SUSPECTED*** hack, when it was discovered the username and
     password
     of a county election official were being circulated online."
     "...authorities ***BELIEVE*** the source of the attempted intrusion
     was
     a Russian hacker."
     This could have been a simple cybersecurity fuckup on the part of
     [username]
     [4]http://www.azcentral.com/story/tech/news/2016/08/29/
     hackers-hit-arizona-illinois-voter-databases/89547326/

   And even if it were a Russian hacker, it's a long trip from there to
   its being a hacker working under orders from the Russian government for
   the purpose of swaying the US election. Arizona kinda makes sense since
   it looks like the vote will be close there and it's winner-take all.
   But why Illinois? There's no way to swing Illinois toward Trump and not
   get caught. Of course, that assumes that the supposed hack was targeted
   only at those states, when it's more likely every state was targeted
   and either only those states had vulnerabilities the hackers could
   find, or only those states had enough auditing in place to even know
   they'd been hit. Given the general state of computer security in
   government, especially state government, databases, my money's on the
   last one. And the most likely motives are money, embarrassing the
   government, and lulz. Probably all three. Maybe they were Russian,
   maybe they were Ukranians pretending to be coming from Russia, or maybe
   the NSA is pulling a fast one on the FBI.
   It's also possible the FBI is simply lying, but then we're back to the
   problem of why Illinois? If you were going to make up a Russian hack
   for the purpose of swaying the election, wouldn't you pick likely swing
   states?

References

   1. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net
   2. https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-says-foreign-hackers-penetrated-0000001
   3. https://s.yimg.com/dh/ap/politics/images/boe_flash_aug_2016_final.pdf
   4. http://www.azcentral.com/story/tech/news/2016/08/29/hackers-hit-arizona-illinois-voter-databases/89547326/