I disagree, vehemently. Global warming is not a red herring. Permafrost is melting, oceans are rising and acidifying, and the future for big coastal cities is looking very bleak indeed. There is a scientific consensus on this issue. But yes of course pollution does suck ass... -- John On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Jason McVetta <[1]jason.mcvetta@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:44 PM, John <[2]jnn@synfin.org> wrote: The thing about Trump is he thinks climate change / global warming is a hoax. Here's the thing: global warming is a red herring. Whether or not anthropogenic climate change is real - dumping pollution into the environment still sucks balls. So at the behest of the bigmedia propaganda organs, perfectly well-intentioned people on both sides endlessly argue over dodgy, politicized science. Yet regardless which side is right about global warming, almost everyone agrees that pollution blows oats and should be reduced. References 1. mailto:jason.mcvetta@gmail.com 2. mailto:jnn@synfin.org