From: John Newman >I disagree, vehemently. Global warming is not a red herring. Permafrost is melting, oceans are rising and acidifying, and the future for big >coastal cities is looking very bleak indeed. There is a scientific consensus on this issue. I don't see how there can be "scientific consensus" unless there are accurate computer models which show how up climate temperature increases as a product of addition of CO2 to the atmosphere. Both qualitatively and quantitatively. How much do these problems represent? From Lord Kelvin: “When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science.” [1]http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166961-when-you-can-measure-what-you -are-speaking-about-and There is also the prospect of adding SO2 to the high atmosphere to counteract heating, which could be a very cheap solution. Jim Bell References 1. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166961-when-you-can-measure-what-you-are-speaking-about-and