From: juan On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <[1]jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Apparently, that is true. The tantalizing thing is that SOMETHING >> APPEARS (information, of some nature) to be transferred between one >> particle and another, distant one, and yet there seems to be no way >> to use that transfer to actually transmit useful FTL > Which sounds rather absurd no? Certainly that sounds absurd! It IS absurd! Which explains a lot of the fascination has for entangled photons and related phenomena. Einstein never liked the quantum-mechanics idea, famously declaring "God does not play dice with the universe". Unfortunately for Einstein, dice are actually played. In fact, Einstein's EPR Paradox (Einstein, Podolski, Rosen) was invented by Einstein himself in an attempt to prove that quantum mechanics could not be a complete statement of the problem. [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox This principle said that IF quantum mechanics were a complete statement of the problem, then something seemingly impossible [fill in the blank with FTL information travel] would occur. Einstein was quite convinced that nothing (including no information) could travel faster than 'c'. Amazingly, it appears that nature ("God", for the religious among you) has acted simultaneously to protect the quantum mechanics theory, but ALSO to protect Einstein's belief that nothing could travel faster than 'c'. If anybody should discover a method to use entangled photons to effectively transmit data FTL (and thus, presumably at infinite speed) that person would surely deserve a Nobel Prize in Physics. >Either this is ordinary EM > phenomena that propagate at the so called speed of light, or > it is something else which could propagate at 'faster than > light' speed. It's at least 10,000 times 'c' the speed of light in a vacuum, according to experiments involving fiber optics. It might be essentially infinite. > If 'something' is moving at faster than light speed, then some > information must be being transmitted. If no information is > being transmitted, then by definition, there's no way to measure > speed and the claim makes no sense. Well, that's the problem. Knowing that SOMETHING is being transmitted, and actually USING that method to transmit useful information, are (quite strangely) two different things. That, also is the amazing implications of entangled photons. Jim Bell References 1. mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox