On 07/25/2016 10:26 PM, Ted Smith wrote:

   On 07/25/2016 09:27 PM, Александр wrote:

     On 07/25/2016 04:42 PM, stef wrote:
     > for those not sabotaging this list with noise,


   2016-07-26 5:05 GMT+03:00 Rayzer <[1]rayzer@riseup.net>:

   If you mean my posts I have two words for you.
   Fuck off.
   If you don't mean my posts backtrack to those two words. They still
   apply.

   At last!!! At last it's not me or Zen who reply to these kind of shitty
   claims.
   Thank you, Razer!
   I wonder where is our beloved grarpamp AND Ted-the fucken teddy-bear,
   who repeat themselves like fascist parrots about censoring the list to
   the "crypto-shit only"-> sttttop the offtopic "shit".

   I was reading the code. Do you code, Александр? You should really try
   to learn, it's a very empowering experience.
   I really really wanted an Altair when I saw it in a boys life magazine
   circa 1967-8 but my parents were NEVER going to shell out that kind of
   money so I missed the early days of personal computing.
   I started with Basic V1.1 on an Epson HX-20 CP/M laptop in the mid-late
   80s.
   Wrote a terminal/logging program which I used on BBSs and Packet Radio
   that ran @1200 baud that would also spit out a printed log of the radio
   contact. I wrote it myself from examples provided in the Epson manual
   that was full of mistakes I had to debug and correct.
   I went to a Tandy ColorComputer and Basic09, then OS9 L1 and L2
   (microware for 68XXX chips)
   Then I learned a little C, but before I could dig in there was C+ and
   C++ and then...
   ...and then I figured out unless I was getting paid  for writing code
   so I could write them off I simply couldn't afford the INCREDIBLY
   PRICED books on the subject... A subject that was changing at
   lightspeed... before WWW tutorials etc.
   I did pick up enough Jscript to get me in trouble though.
   I apologize to NO ONE for not posting directly code-related items. That
   IS NOT the purpose of this list according to EVERYTHING I've managed to
   find about it historically and suspect it just more feudal bullshit
   from people who 'came lately' to the coding world, and as I claimed
   before, came for the money.
   By the time I figured out there was money to be made. I could already
   see, considering I lived in the heart of it, all the psychopaths
   flocking to 'the next big thing' and decided I would NEVER EVER EVER do
   code work for a living (at least in the US). I was looking at Cisco
   books laying around at the Gym when CIsco started up and saw that I had
   learned 99% of it playing with packet radio, iNos jNos and TPK.
   Fuck 'em. Fuck their money. You can train a CHILD or that guy sitting
   on the ground downtown panhandling to do coding. It's NOT brain
   surgery. And the arrogance of people I see in the industry is still
   profoundly disturbing.
   Rr

References

   1. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net