On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:05 AM juan <[1]juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:

     On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 06:56:56 -0400
     John <[2]jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
     >
     >
     > On July 21, 2016 5:21:04 AM EDT, juan <[3]juan.g71@gmail.com>
     wrote:
     > >On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:51:49 +0000
     > >Sean Lynch <[4]seanl@literati.org> wrote:
     > >
     > >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:59 PM juan <[5]juan.g71@gmail.com>
     wrote:
     > >>
     > >> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:44:16 +0300
     > >> > Georgi Guninski <[6]guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
     > >> >
     > >> > > Instead of only bashing tor, why not discuss the
     alternatives
     > >> > > and move to something allegedly better?
     > >> >
     > >> >
     > >> >         We need to get rid of tor first. Resources wasted on
     tor
     > >are
     > >> >         resources that can't be used in good projects.
     > >> >
     > >>
     > >> They are not your resources to redirect,
     > >
     > >     No they are not mine. They belong to the people who the US
     > >     gov't/military robs. No taxes no tor.
     >
     > Well, phrasing I guess, but most of the relays just belong to
     > volunteers.
             Apologies John, I really don't mean to pick on you
             personally.
             I'd point out though that the organization exists thanks to
             state funding. The whole thing would be rather different if
     all
             the participants were volunteers.
             (are all high speed nodes also run by and paid for
     volunteers?)

   Whatever I may think of your other beliefs about the organization, the
   funding model is definitely a problem. Same goes for Mozilla taking
   money from Google, MS, eBay, etc. Organizations building important
   infrastructure need to be independent.

     > I run a relay most of the time, although I dont consider
     > it one of the top 5 or even top 10 services I maintain on that
     > particular box... It's kind of just a half ass interesting service
     to
     > fuck with occasionally.
     >
     > John
     >
     >
     >

References

   1. mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com
   2. mailto:jnn@synfin.org
   3. mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com
   4. mailto:seanl@literati.org
   5. mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com
   6. mailto:guninski@guninski.com