On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:59 PM juan <[1]juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:

     On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:44:16 +0300
     Georgi Guninski <[2]guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
     > Instead of only bashing tor, why not discuss the alternatives and
     move
     > to something allegedly better?
             We need to get rid of tor first. Resources wasted on tor are
             resources that can't be used in good projects.

   They are not your resources to redirect, but the resources expended on
   Tor are tiny compared to, say, Bitcoin. Or even just Ethereum. This is
   not a good argument, and I think it may be motivated by your own
   personal feelings about Tor. Which you are perfectly entitled to have,
   but you should not be surprised when people who do not share those
   feelings don't find your arguments based on them compelling.

     > Certainly some advanced attack and/or backdoor will screw them
     all.
     >
     > For a start, I would like to know:
     >
     > 1. What are alternatives to tor (possibly with less
     functionality)?
     > 2. Is the alternative known to be in bed with shady stuff like
     TLAs?
     > 3. Did they have braindamaged bugs (like debian's openssl
     memset())?
     > 4. What is their security/anonymity bug history?
     > 5. To what attacks they are known to be vulnerable?
     > 6. To what attacks they are conjectured to be immune?
     >
     > As an aside, I heard critique of Riffle: MIT are allegedly in bed
     with
     > USA. Don't know it this makes sense or not.
             Of course it does. As a matter of fact tor cunts dingledine
     and
             syverson are part of mit, or part of mit projects like
             'dissent'.

   So design your own?

References

   1. mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com
   2. mailto:guninski@guninski.com