And back to the original post from Zenaan... (sorry teddy, your attempt of misleading didn't succeed after all) Juan was 100% right. And he was the only one on tor-talk and the cypherpunk list, who persistently (for years!) claimed that Tor is totally fucked up. And now there are unambiguous proves from all the evidences that came out in the recent months (not that before there was nothing). So, thank you, Juan. The teddy-bears on this list who are so fucken smart and so educated and "strict cypherpunki"... - are not so smart after all. And this "troll/fsb agent" Juan... is smarter than them. !