i like the idea of mathmatical echo as solution
   [1]http://guap.ru/guap/nids/pdf_2010/kuyumchev.pdf
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   On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:52 PM, grarpamp <[2]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

     On 3/1/16, Georgi Guninski <[3]guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
     >> > Is jitter/fill traffic full solution?
     > The threat model is the entire world --
     Then the full solution is to unplug, smash, and go outside and
     play...
     > in real life do you care much what accident
     > will "own" your life?
     ... just be sure to wear your helmet :)
     > Combination of many threats -- owning, timing, crypto, etc
     If the thread is a thread just griping on threats that's fine.
     But lumping them all in versus fill traffic (being a possible
     solution
     to the one specific subthreat of GPA)... probably isn't productive
     towards solving anything... whether the entire threat
     or any particular subthreat. Especially when fill traffic hasn't
     yet been speculated here to enhance the efficacy of any other
     existing threat, or to create new threats.
     >> Do they and their court docs officially say that?
     >
     > Don't know about courts, here is a reference from thereg:
     >
     [4]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/07/lulzsec_takedown_analysis
     /
     That's not a quote from an original source. Neither is what it
     references...
     [5]http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/03/notes-on-sabu-arrest.html
     ... which goes to Fox, which probably goes to... and to... and to...
     ... including possibly to stretching / ignoring the law, parallel
     construction...
     or to some other legit defendant screwup... at least until the quote
     is validated.
     Have the actual chain of custodied investigative materials as to
     exactly
     how the SilkRoad server was found come out yet? (And other similarly
     fishy
     cases where nodes on supposedly strong overlay networks were
     found...)
     Or is that still wrapped in grand jury, work product, state secret,
     in camera, sealed...

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References

   1. http://guap.ru/guap/nids/pdf_2010/kuyumchev.pdf
   2. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com
   3. mailto:guninski@guninski.com
   4. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/07/lulzsec_takedown_analysis/
   5. http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/03/notes-on-sabu-arrest.html
   6. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com
   7. https://twitter.com/carimachet