Would not all of our intelligence agencies stand to gain in
     collective
     intelligence by helping those who are morally opposed to the game,
     to
     exit the game, and **live to speak of it**??

   Absolutely. It's a shitty situation for some counterintelligence folks
   since it boils down to something that only hurts their Intel Community
   and helps the opposition but there's nothing inherently wrong/bad with
   the effort and the people behind it might not even be indirectly
   sponsored by a foreign intelligence service.

     This is a serious question for those of you who swore an oath to
     uphold
     the constitution and still believe you are doing it. You have
     collegues
     who are abusing you, your friends, and demeaning the very
     organization
     you work for. The greatest danger to national security is those that
     keep and use secrets for personal gain and power.

   I personally think that in most cases it's better to make a difference
   from inside than outside. There are exceptions and situations where
   that's impossible, of course, and sometimes an external shock to the
   system is necessary to instigate change... but it's always
   uncontrolled. I want people to stick around to fix things, not exit and
   point out the problems. That's a very personal choice with a lot of
   variables though, so I respect people that come to a different
   conclusion.

     If you do not wish to exit, then make it so others can, easily,
     simply,
     and quietly. There is no need for unintended acceleration when
     someone
     wants to slow down and get out.

   100% agree, with the additional thought that the exit interviews should
   try to find a way to 1. solve the problem and 2. hopefully retain the
   employee.

     Or, at the very least, what secrets can you gain from the other
     side(s)
     when their battered and broken soldiers have had enough? Is this not
     worth
     the investment in allowing a graceful exit?

   And now we get into the CI nightmare again. It can be a ripe field for
   recruiting, theoretically. At least one study (I think more, but can't
   be sure off the top of my head) has shown that for people who were
   current and active personnel at the time, ideology played a relatively
   low motivation in betrayals and leaks (to the press or foreign
   agencies). Usually it's money or revenge, both of which could certainly
   play a role for people exiting the service.

   On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <[1]hozer@hozed.org>
   wrote:

     On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:55:31PM -0500, Michael Best wrote:
     > [2]https://insurance.thecthulhu.com/
     >
     >
     > > I would like to ask the public for help. My freedom may soon be
     > > compromised, and therefore I require assistance to see out a
     final stage.
     >
     > I cannot comment on the contents of the container below other than
     it
     > > contains pdfs, word documents, powerpoints, images and a few sql
     dumps.
     > > Every person who downloads this for the record is doing a
     service for
     > > democracy, and should hold people accountable for their
     atrocities.
     > > When the time comes, I will ensure the passphrase for the
     container is
     > > published either through myself or by proxy. I am not the only
     person with
     > > it either.
     > > To my friends out there, here is something to consider:
     > > [3]https://www.intelexit.org
     > > I will not be intimidated. I am not afraid. I know the
     consequences, and I
     > > accept them.
     > > With the power of democracy, comes the responsibility of
     defending it from
     > > any threat.
     Fascinating stuff.
     And because I had a little too much paranoia to drink this morning,
     which
     nation-state(s) are sponsoring intelexit with double and triple
     agents?
     But let's think about this... Let us use the power and paranoia that
     comes
     from living in the no such agency in a match of psycho-therapeutic
     ju-jitsu
     in which German intelligence, the Mossad, and China collaborate to
     provide
     post-traumatic stress disorder treatment for all of our wounded
     information
     warriors.
     Would not all of our intelligence agencies stand to gain in
     collective
     intelligence by helping those who are morally opposed to the game,
     to
     exit the game, and **live to speak of it**??
     This is a serious question for those of you who swore an oath to
     uphold
     the constitution and still believe you are doing it. You have
     collegues
     who are abusing you, your friends, and demeaning the very
     organization
     you work for. The greatest danger to national security is those that
     keep and use secrets for personal gain and power.
     If you do not wish to exit, then make it so others can, easily,
     simply,
     and quietly. There is no need for unintended acceleration when
     someone
     wants to slow down and get out.
     Or, at the very least, what secrets can you gain from the other
     side(s)
     when their battered and broken soldiers have had enough? Is this not
     worth
     the investment in allowing a graceful exit?

References

   1. mailto:hozer@hozed.org
   2. https://insurance.thecthulhu.com/
   3. https://www.intelexit.org/