On 11/02/2015 05:13 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: enlightened self interest That sort of like saying a 'noble lie' can be told by political hacks who consider themselves 'enlightened'. You can see where it's gotten us. Industrial Age becomes Industrial Murder Machine. Listen... IF you THINK you're "enlightened" you AREN'T. Even IF millions of people say you are. That doesn't mean you are either. As Rev Gary Davis told reporters when he denied writing "Candy Man Blues" and they said "But everybody says you did!". "That just goes to show what everybody knows." RR enlightened self-interest... what WOULD 'jesus' self-interest in?