structurally speaking monolithic thinking is a capture tool of the cia
   and under EO 12333 all agencies are the cia = all 16 agencies

   but that expansion is evident = gone beyond the 16 now

   LAPD could not talk about mmhastings "fiery crash" as all-all natsec
   natinterests which is whatever the fuck they say it is on a given
   fucking day under the header 'upcoming trade deal' plus other\many
   evidences of that shit...court docs\proceedings express just
   lookie-lookie

   On Aug 23, 2015 1:45 PM, "John Young" <[1]jya@pipeline.com> wrote:

     Well said on skepticism of news reports concerning crypto, comsec,
     infosec, natsec. Disinfo and deception are inherent in security and
     survival, and best, most reliable, most trusted are typical tools of
     misleading exploitation.
     Where a single means and method, such as crypto (or science), is
     encouraged for rock-solid assurance, at least one other means and
     methods should be employed which in no way depends upon the
     single means. Hoodwink wins by cheating.
     A single means is certain to be continously under attack, and its
     vulnerabilities concealed both by the attackers and by the
     promoters.
     Blind faith in a single means is as old as religion, art and
     royalty, perhaps
     as old as humans faced with unending threats from nature and
     mortality -- and most of all from each other's thieving and
     murderous
     practices. Duplicity and con-jobs were essential, along with bigger
     clubs and rocks, voodoo and faux-virgin sacrifices -- ISIS hardly
     different, except more modest and sane and much less wealthy,
     than Los Alamos, The Vatican, JP Morgan, Ashley Madison,
     Silicon Valley and the IC all fostering blind faith in their own
     advertising of rockefeller-st-peter-approved STD protection.
     Some HTTPS Everywheres lately have been advertising encryption
     and HTTPS as condoms to protect against Internet STD, aka privacy
     rape. Peddlers of these hygienics are surely donors to the of Church
     of Crypto whose priests do enjoy the pleasures of insider hoo-haa.
     At 02:25 AM 8/23/2015, you wrote:

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     On 08/22/2015 06:07 PM, Tomas Overdrive Petru wrote:
     >
     > This one has been puzzling me for several days.  Since I have
     > not yet been able to figure it out, I thought I would "bleg"
     > for assistance from our encryption-savvy readership.
     > According to the Sun Sentinel
     >
     <[2]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-christopher-glenn-sentenced-
     2
     0150731-story.html>,
     >
     >
     >
     a South Florida man was recently  convicted of stealing military
     > secrets.  I am less concerned with what he stole or why than
     > with what the story says about how the evidence against him was
     > identified and used. Here is the relevant part of the story:
     >
     > [3]https://www.lawfareblog.com/puzzling-encryption-story
     Historically, the FBI has used keyloggers to defeat PGP Disc and
     Truecrypt - and also, I am sure, other encrypted file systems that
     don't have back door access as a standard feature.
     Since rubber hose cryptanalysis and bugging computers are well
     known FBI methods, while world + dog have failed so far to make
     real progress on breaking the ciphers used in Truecrypt, I see no
     reason to suspect the latter occurred.  None at all.
     The word "Truecrypt" does not appear in this summary of expert
     testimony, which describes forensics conducted at the facilities
     the classified files were borrowed from:
     [4]https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/08/04/glenn_exhibit_1.pdf
     So, the defendant was already in the bag before somebody managed
     to type the correct pass phrase and examine the contents of his
     stash.  I found no indication of whether his guilty plea came
     before or after investigators had access to the encrypted data; it
     seems very likely that handing over the pass phrase was part of a
     plea deal.
     Persuading people that a cryptographic tool does not work is a
     very effective attack against it.  Should we blame ignorance or
     something else for the "Truecrypt is broken" take-away many casual
     readers will pick up from this story as written?
     :o)
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References

   1. mailto:jya@pipeline.com
   2. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-christopher-glenn-sentenced-2
   3. https://www.lawfareblog.com/puzzling-encryption-story
   4. https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/08/04/glenn_exhibit_1.pdf