David would argue that the power elites will never allow themselves to be blinded, so that is not really one of our options. We can choose to watch back or not, and he would suggest that we should do so. There is some merit to the argument. Lance -- Lance Cottrell [1]loki@obscura.com On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Sean Lynch <[2]seanl@literati.org> wrote: So what do people think of David Brin's "transparent society" approach to this problem? We can't completely stop ourselves from being watched, but we can make use of all this technology ourselves. Police have ALPRs and dashcams and bodycams, but by and large they have actually resisted expansions of their own surveillance because they want the flexibility to be able to make up justifications after the fact. Phone cams have for the most part taken that choice away from them. The result seems likely to be less police abuse than at any point since at least the early 20th century in the US. Even Snowden's leaks were enabled by very similar technologies to what the NSA deploys against us. Is there any reason to believe that, overall, technology will benefit governments more than it does individuals? References 1. mailto:loki@obscura.com 2. mailto:seanl@literati.org