i dont think he is just talking about afghanistan there but you are entitled to your opinion i think his mind was being changed after that about iraq thats what the 2 paragraphs say to me and it was a progression - he kind of came to on the iraq thing but then still backed the invasion anyway i have seen another quote someone sent me on twitter - as i use to fight with glenn on twitter about pierre and shit ... and laura ... i cant find it ... i will keep looking - these things were out in the press before this book was published fyi i fought a lot with laura over her unwavering support of wikileaks she has a huge blindspot there for sure - it was like talking a kid out of their lollipop or going back in time and talking people out of doing human sacrifices i never heard the israelis knew about the attack beforehand ?????????? i mean zionists.... saudia arabia is too important for the interests of capitalist fucks globally not just because they produce oil but because they have money and dont give a fuck about their people in terms of advanced politic > monarchy - the fascist capitalist built their infrastructure and maintain it - you think that is a few dollawolfs rrrr some change in the coach? read: confessions of an economic hitman and you can watch john talk about the shit here: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8 [f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v5dfb6W5vwkZs7fZjrnW2BpKgF2zlZNzW 8v-hnY1k1H6H0?si=5459291358625792&pi=1bbf3045-f119-4961-bd11-900c02 8db018] On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Mirimir <[2]mirimir@riseup.net> wrote: On 04/07/2015 06:55 PM, Cari Machet wrote: > here: > [3]https://extremeliberal.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/glenn-greenwald-s upported-president-bush-as-he-signed-the-patriot-act/ > > he actually uses the fucking word 'vengeance' ... fuck Yes, he does. But he says that about invading _Afghanistan_, not Iraq. He says that he took W's word on Iraq. That does not reflect well on him, and I'm disappointed that he hasn't acknowledged his error. But so it goes. It it were vengeance the US wanted, they should have invaded Saudi Arabia :) Free oil! They should also have cut off the fucking Israelis, who knew that the attack was immanent. > someone sent this to me on twitter long ago so this isnt anything new i am > pointing out > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Cari Machet <[4]carimachet@gmail.com> wrote: > >> mirimir i would have to dig up the quote where the fuck says that >> basically it is good us is invading to get back at the iraqi's for 9-11 >> >> umn the iraqi's had nothing to do with 9-11 and he swallowed that tripe... >> i am sorry but that is just stupid x 5 million >> >> i dont care about his excuses my pet spider even knew it was crap >> >> if you can give him a pass for being 'apathetic' which i wouldnt frame it >> like that then that says a lot about you - its not apathy to support a >> fucking invasion of a people - people that are apathetic are like i dont >> know not oh yay lets do it it is a totally different mindset >> >> and that he is here in daily kos framing out this lie says more to me >> about his lack of character than anything and you of course didnt address >> that part - if the fuck was an actual person he could be like yay i sucked >> but now i know better i changed its so great we get to change our minds in >> our lifetimes and fucking grow but does gleenny do that no he cant face >> himself its pathetic he lives in his ego >> >> ego doesnt want people saying they are wrong ever and its a death echo >> chamber >> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Mirimir <[5]mirimir@riseup.net> wrote: >> >>> On 04/07/2015 11:50 AM, Cari Machet wrote: >>>> dear mirimir you cannot read >>>> >>>> 'Nonetheless, because of the general faith I had in political and media >>>> institutions, I assumed - since both political parties and media outlets >>>> and journalists from across the ideological spectrum were united in >>> support >>>> of the war - that there must be some valid basis to the claim that >>> Saddam >>>> posed a threat. My basic trust in these institutions neutralized the >>>> objections I had and led me to passively acquiesce to what was being >>> done >>>> ("I believed then that the president was entitled to have his national >>>> security judgment deferred to, and to the extent that I was able to >>> develop >>>> a definitive view, I accepted his judgment that American security really >>>> would be enhanced by the invasion of this sovereign country.").' >>>> >>>> did you read the motherfucking article? >>> >>> Yes, I read the motherfucking article. He says that he was apathetic, >>> and trusted institutions (and even that asshole W). Maybe he needs to do >>> more mea culpas for that, or cut off his left pinkie. But unless you >>> cite some public statement where he actively supported the invasion, >>> rather than just deferred to arguably better-informed opinions, it's no >>> big deal in the current context. In my opinion. >>> >>>> this should tell you how duplicitous he is just like the government >>> says he >>>> didnt do anything - he didnt fuck that bitch - oh he fucked them hard >>> though >>> >>> I'd say rather that he let Uncle Dick finger fuck him, but just a little >>> ;) >>> >>>> also daily kos sucks >>> >>> Yeah, I don't read that shit. >>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Razer <[6]Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/06/2015 10:29 PM, Juan wrote: >>>>>> Well, everything should have been put in the public domain >>>>>> from day zero. But Snowden thought that would hurt >>>>>> the interests of the american nazi state. Or maybe he didn't >>>>>> want to be killed like a dog. Who knows. >>>>> >>>>> I know. As many people who've attempted to change the Crypto-Fascist >>>>> shithole called "America" have noted, the powers that be ARE TOO STRONG >>>>> to take on... head on. >>>>> >>>>> Snowden has set in motion The 'death of a thousand (intelligence) cuts' >>>>> to weaken the surveillance state enough that the issue can be >>> approached >>>>> at all in some way that MAY change it. >>>>> >>>>> As far as whether Greenwald and co or Snowden's a capitalist, or a >>>>> libertard, a demoncrat or rethuglican (the ONLY diff is who receives >>> the >>>>> booty from our imperial adventurism where brown people die) ...is >>>>> absolutely irrelevant to the end result. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cari Machet >> NYC [7]646-436-7795 >> [8]carimachet@gmail.com >> AIM carismachet >> Syria [9]+963-099 277 3243 >> Amman [10]+962 077 636 9407 >> Berlin [11]+49 152 11779219 >> Reykjavik [12]+354 894 8650 >> Twitter: @carimachet <[13]https://twitter.com/carimachet> >> >> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 >> >> Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the >> addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. 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