It looks like they would be in a position to do so if they wanted. -Lance -- Lance Cottrell [1]loki@obscura.com On May 20, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Juan <[2]juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 06:49:26 -0700 Lance Cottrell <[3]loki@obscura.com> wrote: Just read the “Threat Model” section of the website. They are working to prevent mass surveillance, Really? But they are going to collect 'metadata' about all their users, no? not to stop targeted nation state level attacks against individual users. -Lance -- Lance Cottrell [4]loki@obscura.com On May 19, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Александр wrote: http://betabeat.com/2014/05/harvard-and-mit-students-launch-nsa-proo f-email-service/ well, it seems too good to be truth. Recently we"ve got a lot of projects like that. Yes, there are enthusiasts. A real good ones. But we should also ask ourselves, (except what tpb-crypto mentiond), who these guys are? Could they be a project of... the NSA itself? Yes. I read their security section. The first thing in my mind (i am not tooooo paranoid:)) is that it is too good. It is absolutely free WITHOUT any mention of donations. Not even a mention. Who supports them? Can we trust him/it? Are they millionaires:)? We see not even one word about the money. Second of all, when you read their security section, its like a honey for bees - it invites you. Its ideal. Too much ideal. So yes, i rely on my feelings too, and there is something wrong with that. These guys are from Germany: https://lavaboom.com/en/beta.html It seems to me a better choice (except the problem of the fact that Germany has got its nsa=bnd and that they give everything to nsa) In the end, we need to trust someone. But we dont read their minds:). And it could be, after all, a big fall. We"ve got pgp. Thanks God. But a 100% reliable and bulletproof email provider? No. References 1. mailto:loki@obscura.com 2. mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com 3. mailto:loki@obscura.com 4. mailto:loki@obscura.com