From: Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com>
   On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 07:56:50PM +0200, Stephan Neuhaus wrote:
   > On 2014-05-12, 18:25, jim bell wrote:
   >> > Also, I believe there is a rule that says that laws of nature
   aren't
   >> > patentable.  To the extent that primality is a law of nature, it
   >> > shouldn't be patentable.
   >>
   >> To be pedantic, primes aren't so much a law of *nature*, they're in
   >> *maths*.  I'm not aware of any law of, e.g., physics that would
   depend
   >> on primes, but would love to learn of one, if one exists.
   >> Stephan
   >Allegedly Riemann zeta function is related to
   >physics, though this well might be just
   >speculations (search the web for ref).
   >It is more interesting to me if
   >sqrt(-1), n-dimensional space, etc. are
   >part of nature...
   My understanding is that they are part of nature.  If you think about
   it, to hunter-gatherer-level societies, negative numbers could be
   called "imaginary":  There is no such thing as "negative-3 sheep", for
   instance.  Nor is there a third of a (living) sheep.  It was easy
   enough for people to divorce themselves from the idea of integers, or
   positive numbers.  It was much more difficult to deal with "irrational
   numbers" (numbers which could not be expressed as the ratio of two
   integers).
   Square roots were comparatively easy...as long as you were talking a
   positive number.  Computing imaginary roots seems terribly difficult,
   until you express the number in terms of a real/imaginary graph, and
   voila, it's trivial again.  I think that (e (to the power of (2 times
   pi times I)) -1) =0   was discovered at least a couple hundred years
   ago.   It's been attributed to Euler, nearly 300 years ago.
   And the various string theories proposed in the last 20 years require
   the universe to contain 10 or 11 dimensions, with 6 (or 7) of them
   wound up tightly, perhaps near a Planck length.  (10e(-33)cm).
            Jim Bell