On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Adam Back <[1]adam@cypherspace.org> wrote: Dont worry about James hyperbole, he's just channeling Tim May who was one of the three or four list co-founders, wrote the cyphernomicon [1], and had a habit of using that phrase 'needed killing' now and then, as I recall as phrase to express his distaste for someone's actions. Its an expression, not something literal... but James' black & white, non-PC, absolutist personality precludes him saying that :) You just have to read it with a USENET flame war mentality and parse for what he's actually saying. Apart from the refusal to bow to PC, James is actually a pretty smart guy from what I recall. He implemented some simplifed UX, ECC crypto email stuff called 'crypto kong' [2] way back in 1997. Cypherpunks write code & all that, gives James some brownie points. History is littered with people who did remarkable things only to abuse the trust people placed in them to do horrible things. Writing some cool ECC crypto code does not preclude you from criticism when you show yourself to be someone who fantasizes about killing people. (Just look at all the creative ways he killed off people in the last thread! There was way too much imagination involved to be channeling anyone.) On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Cari Machet <[2]carimachet@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks - yes I know who may is and I understand the libertarian head space - as a fucking American citizen of native American descent I often find it at best 'racist' - I disagree with The laziness it's thought patterns propagate ... More later on ur packed analysis James already proved himself a racist earlier in the discussion when he mentioned that he could only find "a number of black felons who should have been killed off long ago" while googling a person's name. "Black" was, of course, completely irrelevant, but he nevertheless found it important to add. If you're puzzled as to why he acts this way, his website might shine a little light on the issue: [3]http://jim.com/. Clearly, the best solution is to ignore him. But let's not try to excuse what could best be described as the musings of a bitter old man because he wrote some code a decade ago. References 1. mailto:adam@cypherspace.org 2. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com 3. http://jim.com/