Thanks that is very interesting I will pass the knowledge to others I know From what I understand Aaron was profoundly unhinged by the fact that he would have to live his life as a convicted felon and that was his major issue Pure sadness ... Sent from my iPhoney On 01.01.2014, at 21:28, Jim Bell <[1]jamesdbell8@yahoo.com> wrote: No, I'm sorry, I have no links with other MIT alums. One big misunderstanding that would have been able to clear up with aaron swartz had I been aware of his situation, that I hope other readers will now learn, is the issue of how much time he (or other federal defendants) would have faced if convicted. Federal criminal laws generally include with them a statement of the maximum punishment that can be applied: They are generally even numbers, such as "5 years", "10 years", "15 years" or so. However, such statements are basically archaic: In 1987, the laws were changed (prisoners called it "new law") to calculate sentences based on the defendant's criminal history, the severity of the crime, and other facts. See [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Federal_Sentencing_Guidel ines The following sentencing table is part of that Wikipedia article. I assume that Aaron Swartz would have had a "zero" "criminal history", in other words the Column labelled "I" (0 or 1) would have been used. An offense level up to 8 would have specified a sentence between 0 and 6 months. I would have to look up the specific charges to see what he faced, but I strongly doubt that he would have been sentenced to over 2 years, and probably under 1 year. Jim Bell ================quote from Wikipedia begins================ Sentencing table The sentencing table is an integral part of the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines.^[3][24] The Offense Level (1-43) forms the vertical axis of the Sentencing Table. The Criminal History Category (I-VI) forms the horizontal axis of the Table. The intersection of the Offense Level and Criminal History Category displays the Guideline Range in months of imprisonment. "Life" means life imprisonment. For example, the guideline range applicable to a defendant with an Offense Level of 15 and a Criminal History Category of III is 24–30 months of imprisonment. CAPTION: Sentencing Table (effective Nov. 2012) (showing months of imprisonment)^[4][25]^[5][26] Offense Level ↓ Criminal History Category (Criminal History Points) I (0 or 1) II (2 or 3) III (4,5,6) IV (7,8,9) V (10,11,12) VI (13+) Zone A 1 0-6 0-6 0-6 0-6 0-6 0-6 2 0-6 0-6 0-6 0-6 0-6 1-7 3 0-6 0-6 0-6 0-6 2-8 3-9 4 0-6 0-6 0-6 2-8 4-10 6-12 5 0-6 0-6 1-7 4-10 6-12 9-15 6 0-6 1-7 2-8 6-12 9-15 12-18 7 0-6 2-8 4-10 8-14 12-18 15-21 8 0-6 4-10 6-12 10-16 15-21 18-24 Zone B 9 4-10 6-12 8-14 12-18 18-24 21-27 10 6-12 8-14 10-16 15-21 21-27 24-30 11 8-14 10-16 12-18 18-24 24-30 27-33 Zone C 12 10-16 12-18 15-21 21-27 27-33 30-37 13 12-18 15-21 18-24 24-30 30-37 33-41 Zone D 14 15-21 18-24 21-27 27-33 33-41 37-46 15 18-24 21-27 24-30 30-37 37-46 41-51 16 21-27 24-30 27-33 33-41 41-51 46-57 17 24-30 27-33 30-37 37-46 46-57 51-63 18 27-33 30-37 33-41 41-51 51-63 57-71 19 30-37 33-41 37-46 46-57 57-71 63-78 20 33-41 37-46 41-51 51-63 63-78 70-87 21 37-46 41-51 46-57 57-71 70-87 77-96 22 41-51 46-57 51-63 63-78 77-96 84-105 23 46-57 51-63 57-71 70-87 84-105 92-115 24 51-63 57-71 63-78 77-96 92-115 100-125 25 57-71 63-78 70-87 84-105 100-125 110-137 26 63-78 70-87 78-97 92-115 110-137 120-150 27 70-87 78-97 87-108 100-125 120-150 130-162 28 78-97 87-108 97-121 110-137 130-162 140-175 29 87-108 97-121 108-135 121-151 140-175 151-188 30 97-121 108-135 121-151 135-168 151-188 168-210 31 108-135 121-151 135-168 151-188 168-210 188-235 32 121-151 135-168 151-188 168-210 188-235 210-262 33 135-168 151-188 168-210 188-235 210-262 235-293 34 151-188 168-210 188-235 210-262 235-293 262-327 35 168-210 188-235 210-262 235-293 262-327 292-365 36 188-235 210-262 235-293 262-327 292-365 324-405 37 210-262 235-293 262-327 292-365 324-405 360-life 38 235-293 262-327 292-365 324-405 360-life 360-life 39 262-327 292-365 324-405 360-life 360-life 360-life 40 292-365 324-405 360-life 360-life 360-life 360-life 41 324-405 360-life 360-life 360-life 360-life 360-life 42 360-life 360-life 360-life 360-life 360-life 360-life 43 life life life life life life __________________________________________________________________ From: Cari Machet <[6]carimachet@gmail.com> To: Jim Bell <[7]jamesdbell8@yahoo.com> Cc: "[8]cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <[9]cypherpunks@cpunks.org>; "[10]lists@silent1.net" <[11]lists@silent1.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany I sincerely wish you could have helped aaron it is all beyond sad and though some of his projects are being carried out i think we have to do more - Yes I am aware you are an alumni - do u have connections with other alumni ? We think the alumni are a pressure point they cld not ignore Will connect with you further as the project progresses Thanks very very much Sent from my iPhone On 31.12.2013, at 20:59, Jim Bell <[12]jamesdbell8@yahoo.com> wrote: I am an alum of MIT (Class of 1980; Chemistry). I've just read the Wikipedia article on Aaron Swartz, and I am very sympathetic to him. I wish I'd been aware of his situation while he was alive; I might have been able to help, and would have tried to do so. 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