Either way. Companies like cryptoseal and lavabit are closing so that the users can't participate in a class action suit against them. Decreasing the chances of justice by making the next available court room a more controlled one. rant: [ This effects the possibiloty of a night watchman state (where private companies compete for the remaining government services that should be replaced and become efficient). They want to bring the ideology of slow public / government controlled entities / oligopolies controlled by people in the BR. Once the Business Roundatable's philosophy on businesses affecting public policy came true and once they started affecting policies themselves: they've decided -> corporate interest is to use all of our information for advertisements and so from what it seems no decent crypto or true private companies shall make an unregulated alliance better than stopwatchingus to stop the death of a private corporation. However, this somehow gets us closer to a social market economy. So that might be a plus for those that agree but what is a capitalistic society who's class structure will resemble a fascist one do with any form of socialism for anybody who isn't in their class? Throw some conformity in the short run and in the long: starve them with no options except possible infinite detention or death. These are threats to all companies that are trying to bypass US intelligence or do anything anonymous. There will be a monopoly on predictions by inferring trade secrets from the direct access of these servers / keys / user data. It becomes harder to confiscate decentralized structures and data centers if they're out in the sea. Except it may be easier to just send submarines missiles or drones but expecting that might be a little to schizophrenic. ] Does anyone know of a project that connects real dedicated pirate ships? That perhaps get docked here and there but ultimately stay across sea in a seasteeding like environment? That might be the cheapest legal way besides satellites, space stations and low orbit devices. Sea regulation, I believe, is easier to comply with than air regulation. Yes we are living in interesting times when more and more people want to be pirates in order to remain free! JJS On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM, grarpamp <[1]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: Voluntary shutdown beforehand... [2]https://privacy.cryptoseal.com/ [3]http://cryptoseal.com/team/ [4]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6585649 [5]http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/cryptoseal- vpn-shuts-down-rather-than-risk-nsa-demands-for-crypto-keys/ [6]http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/10/21/2157225/cryptoseal-shuts-do wn-consumer-vpn-service-to-avoid-fighting-nsa References 1. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com 2. https://privacy.cryptoseal.com/ 3. http://cryptoseal.com/team/ 4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6585649 5. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/cryptoseal-vpn-shuts-down-rather-than-risk-nsa-demands-for-crypto-keys/ 6. http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/10/21/2157225/cryptoseal-shuts-down-consumer-vpn-service-to-avoid-fighting-nsa