Right, I made the assumption that most VPNs are using forward secrecy... which is obviously not the case. On 01/08/13 23:43, SiNA Rabbani wrote: For example, In Iran which is funny how its mentioned in slide 16, weak encryption is common. Most VPN providers sell PPTP with MSCHAP (thanks to the built in windows client) which I think is as weak as the password set. Three VPN logins are being emailed from providers to users in plain text. It can't be too difficult for NSA or anyone analyzing the traffic to decrypt the VPN content. --SiNA On Aug 1, 2013 4:38 AM, "Faraz" <[1]faraz_mah@lavabit.com> wrote: What's are peoples take on slide 17? "Show me all VPN startups in country X, and give me data so I can decrypt and discover user" [2]http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa-xkey score-program-full-presentation Before digital, there was mechanical. View and purchase fascinating mechanical antique pocket watches and vintage wrist watches. Visit Bogoff Antiques today. [3]http://www.bogoff.com References 1. mailto:faraz_mah@lavabit.com 2. http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa-xkeyscore-program-full-presentation 3. http://www.bogoff.com/