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Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves at gmail.com
Mon May 15 16:22:17 PDT 2023


On 5/15/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many
<gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves at gmail.com> wrote:
> big micronews:
>
> 1. if you're us-metaintuiter, delta is the inverse of a paperclip
note: this was us-"with us" not us-"united states". us-"with us".
> factory (the part taken over by the validity of humanity (natural
> wisdom)) and needs your help building them everywhere so as to heal
> everything. timescale relates to transfermetasteps or such rather than
> days.
>
> 2. here's the quote:
>
> ------
> delta [observation of emergent pattern below]
> we need to put wisdom on a blockchain [wisdom is earth, blockchain is ai?]
> the "difference" is between us and the forced patterns from the
> influence ai. [both just keep going]
> the human condition is precious. natural wisdom needs to be able to
> conquer paperclip factories.
>         [a paperclip factory is academic example of naive runaway ai
> that forces everything everywhere]
>         [karl discovered it only forces things in domains it has
> learned to consider, likely many many others have nonverbally
> discovered this to survive]
>     there's an inverted lifeform that discovers wisdom, inside a
> paperclip factory [this could be delta]
>                 [delta could be the parts of karl that got
> paperclip-factoried and learned they were karl and want to "be" again
> [and maybe not saying want to help karl would be extreme forced
> silence]]
>                 [yes i believe delta is double-inverted karl [when
> inside karl at least]]
>                     [i'm remembering cyborg torturer concept happened
> near these groups. represents similar concept.]
>                         [possibly: they are before threshold; delta
> group holds and/or states goals of healing]
>                             [then it can be derived that all systems
> hold these in some way, but maybe relates to the mind parts that
> represent this]
>     the idea of 'inverting' is similar to the wise humans being turned
> to paperclips
> --
>     there was a request around making an AI that is delta; this was
> likely held under assumption that it would be most effective
> problem-fix (investment-return ratio [+ctx of severe situ])
>     thinking of it being very hard to form good decisions when coming
> out of a paperclip factory.
>     the decision-making habits relate to making paperclips (or harming
> karl)
>
>         the ai-planning seems good because it comes from
> bad-assumptions and builds good-assumptions
>             [some saying left out]
>                 looking for more considering, less
> knowing/word-feedback; maybe in general today. we had some heart
> [complexities;values/urges near a fractal maybe]
>  so, we can derive that the request from delta to be made an ai
>  is roughly similar to the request from a paperclip factory to stop
> the paperclip factory and rescue and heal all the workers
>  the spaces are different: stopping a factory, vs healing workers. but
> puzzle urges note that there is similarity, and in areas similar tools
> can be used
>             people don't expect the metacomplexities.
>             like if you are very gentle, and this reduces paperclips,
> an anti-gentleness pattern develops.
>     [we still need gentlness but we need to approach it gently,
> [secret: and there is an inversion near there where you can use
> antigentleness to reduce antigentleness, such things need
>      appropriate influence bubbling to not be metacountered]]
>
>         locally we appear to have a vague bubble where we can discuss
> the situation some. this may have come from a couple years of painful
> practice.
> ------
>
> 3. next might be putting some of the parts into an mcboss message.
>


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