War re Ukraine: Thread

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Thu May 26 22:25:44 PDT 2022


Nuland-Pyatt Ukraine Coup Tape Removed From YouTube After 8 Years

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/25/nuland-pyatt-tape-removed-from-youtube-after-8-years/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26079957
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1529523242989494274
https://twitter.com/Consortiumnews/status/1529530688751513604

The smoking gun proving US involvement in the 2014 coup in Kiev has
been removed from YouTube after eight years. It was the most complete
version of the intercepted and leaked conversation between then
Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt, the
then US ambassador to Ukraine, in which the two discuss who will make
up the new government weeks before democratically-elected Ukrainian
President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown in a violent coup on Feb.
21, 2014.

The US State Department never denied the authenticity of the video,
and even issued an apology to the European Union after Nuland is heard
on the tape saying, "Fuck the E.U." Mainstream media at the time
focused almost exclusively on that off-color remark, ignoring the
greater significance of U.S. interference in Ukraine’s internal
affairs.

Consortium News has numerous times embedded the YouTube video in
articles about the overthrow of Yanukovych. CN successfully embedded
it earlier this week in an article now being written, but on Wednesday
the video suddenly appeared this way in the draft article:

This is a screenshot taken earlier from the video that has now been removed.
Nuland in screenshot from now removed YouTube video.

Timing of Removal

The removal of a video that had existed online for eight years raises
major questions as it comes during the war in Ukraine. Corporate media
has studiously avoided mentioning the causes of the current conflict,
including NATO eastward expansion, the rejected Moscow treaty
proposals in December, the civil war in Donbass and the 2014 coup in
Kiev that led to the Donbass uprising and violent repression by the
coup government.

The coup in 2014 is the starting point that led to all these events
culminating in Russia’s invasion in February. Removing the video would
be consistent with the suppression of any information that falls
outside the enforced narrative of events in Ukraine, including
whitewashing any mention of the U.S.-backed coup.

    There is, of course, massive censoring by Big Tech of conservative
voices, as well as leftist anti-establishment ones.

    But overlooked: their primary allegiance when censoring is to the
US Security State. Big Tech censorship always aligns with US
intelligence and military aims.👇 https://t.co/1dRj1gkoE1
    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) May 25, 2022

It was the original, most complete, and widely viewed recording of the
call on YouTube:

    There are a couple of other versions on YouTube but this one had
the most views. It was posted on April 29, 2014 and had 181,533 views.
It's on Odyseey and Rumble but they don't have the reach that YouTube
has nor this particular video.
    — Consortium News (@Consortiumnews) May 25, 2022

Transcript Still Online

The BBC on Feb. 7, 2014 — 14 days before Yanukovych was toppled- —
published a transcript of the Nuland-Pyatt conversation. Consortium
News is republishing the transcript here, lest it be removed from the
internet as well:

* * *

Voice thought to be Nuland’s: What do you think?

Voice thought to be Pyatt’s: I think we’re in play. The Klitschko
[Vitaly Klitschko, one of three main opposition leaders] piece is
obviously the complicated electron here. Especially the announcement
of him as deputy prime minister and you’ve seen some of my notes on
the troubles in the marriage right now so we’re trying to get a read
really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to
him, which you’ll need to make, I think that’s the next phone call you
want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yats [Arseniy
Yatseniuk, another opposition leader]. And I’m glad you sort of put
him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I’m very glad
that he said what he said in response.

Nuland: Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I
don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Pyatt: Yeah. I guess… in terms of him not going into the government,
just let him stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m
just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead we want to
keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is going to be
Tyahnybok [Oleh Tyahnybok, the other opposition leader] and his guys
and I’m sure that’s part of what [President Viktor] Yanukovych is
calculating on all this.

Nuland: [Breaks in] I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic
experience, the governing experience. He’s the… what he needs is
Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them
four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in… he’s going
to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it’s just not going to
work.

Pyatt: Yeah, no, I think that’s right. OK. Good. Do you want us to set
up a call with him as the next step?

Nuland: My understanding from that call – but you tell me – was that
the big three were going into their own meeting and that Yats was
going to offer in that context a… three-plus-one conversation or
three-plus-two with you. Is that not how you understood it?

Pyatt: No. I think… I mean that’s what he proposed but I think, just
knowing the dynamic that’s been with them where Klitschko has been the
top dog, he’s going to take a while to show up for whatever meeting
they’ve got and he’s probably talking to his guys at this point, so I
think you reaching out directly to him helps with the personality
management among the three and it gives you also a chance to move fast
on all this stuff and put us behind it before they all sit down and he
explains why he doesn’t like it.

Nuland: OK, good. I’m happy. Why don’t you reach out to him and see if
he wants to talk before or after.

Pyatt: OK, will do. Thanks.

Nuland: OK… one more wrinkle for you Geoff. [A click can be heard] I
can’t remember if I told you this, or if I only told Washington this,
that when I talked to Jeff Feltman [United Nations
Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs] this morning, he had a
new name for the UN guy Robert Serry did I write you that this
morning?

Pyatt: Yeah I saw that.

Nuland: OK. He’s now gotten both Serry and [UN Secretary General] Ban
Ki-moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. So that
would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and to have the UN
help glue it and, you know, Fuck the EU.

Pyatt: No, exactly. And I think we’ve got to do something to make it
stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to
gain altitude, that the Russians will be working behind the scenes to
try to torpedo it. And again the fact that this is out there right
now, I’m still trying to figure out in my mind why Yanukovych
(garbled) that. In the meantime there’s a Party of Regions faction
meeting going on right now and I’m sure there’s a lively argument
going on in that group at this point. But anyway we could land jelly
side up on this one if we move fast. So let me work on Klitschko and
if you can just keep… we want to try to get somebody with an
international personality to come out here and help to midwife this
thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych but we
probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall
into place.

Nuland: So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [US
vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back
to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need [US Vice-President Joe]
Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the
deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.

Pyatt: OK. Great. Thanks.


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