[draft] Defeating Botnets and Trojans: Episode 1

[Nico Verrijdt]

>
> >  I encountered quite a few coincidences in the last 15+ years.
> > One such coincidence is when I once wrote 'that's  two flies in one
> clap',
> > right after writing this a few desks further someone clapped hard on his
> > desk, that was in a quiet place.
>
> This sounds like a coincidence to me, because the sets of words in
> sentences and nearby behaviors are huge, frequent, and happen adjacent
> to each other.
>

I don't believe much in coincidence.
Another such a coincidence is when I needed an eraser and somehow I typed
that down
while a short moment later an eraser flew from one side of the office to
the other side,
from one colleague to another.
The probability of this happening is extremely low as an eraser was, even
then, not much
used anymore and one colleague in need for an eraser while other throwing
one
at the same time of me writing that, ..., I was never that fortunate when
playing the lottery.
I just like to think they snooped on the characters from my file
explorer's title bar.


Op za 11 jun. 2022 om 12:55 schreef Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim
of Many <gmkarl at gmail.com>:

> >  I encountered quite a few coincidences in the last 15+ years.
> > One such coincidence is when I once wrote 'that's  two flies in one
> clap',
> > right after writing this a few desks further someone clapped hard on his
> > desk, that was in a quiet place.
>
> This sounds like a coincidence to me, because the sets of words in
> sentences and nearby behaviors are huge, frequent, and happen adjacent
> to each other.
>
> > There were also times that the management seemed to react immediately to
> > what I typed.
>
> My understanding is that this is considered be corporate machine
> learning algorithms that have been overfit. The described scenario is
> that they don't know what you typed, but AIs trying to make money or
> politics (even at other businesses, in browser advertisements, for
> example) are constantly trying things to see if they work, and we
> learn to respond to the things they try (like suggestions). It kind of
> seems like human body language and intuition could have gotten a
> little entrained.
>
> I don't know how to find people who talk about that, but
> https://www.humanetech.com/ puts some effort into connecting people
> together who do.
>
> On this list, a big topic that isn't addressed directly very often,
> but is continuously addressed indirectly, is information security
> conflict. It's very normal for mainstream machines to be beset by
> systems (backdoors) that let other groups control them. It's a
> dangerous and relevant situation, extremely complicated by AI, where
> often it can seem that a bunch of entities appear invested in clouding
> discussion around it.
>
> Spy agencies. Governments. Military corporations. Political parties.
> Other people likely know more than me about these topical things.
>
> I understand there are some groups at DefCon and likely other Cons
> regarding AI security. This is a pretty important topic. I haven't
> been to one myself.
>
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