DOC - Decentralized Onion Communication

k gmkarl at gmail.com
Wed Jan 12 03:37:58 PST 2022


hi jim

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 7:28 PM jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Aaaaaaa
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:20 PM, Stefan Claas
> <spam.trap.mailing.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:09 PM zeynepaydogan
> > <zeynepaydogan at protonmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Stefan, do you really recommend the Tor network here?  Google users
> don't expect privacy, but the Tor network is deceiating people who expect
> "privacy".The ex Tor developer here might say that the US government is
> funding the Tor.Don't use smartphone but use Tor?
> > > LOL
> >
> > Hi Zeynep,
> >
> > if you are familiar how to edit a torrc, you can then define in their
> > trustworthy nodes
> > from privacy folks and privacy organizations. Or if you know how to run
> your own
> > VPS server you can then use your own one as a trustworthy node.
> >
> > Nym is not ready yet for production, as an alternative and gives you
> > also not more
> > privacy by design, even if it is a Mixnet and will most like cost you
> > money then (crypto
> > currency) once in production.
> >
> > Regarding smartphones, at least you can run my proposal on your
> > smartphone ... ;-)
> __________________
>
> >And with Tor you can run then also professional Mixnet clients, Like YAMN
> or Mixmaster and then send those messages to the Bitmessage Network.
>
> >How cool is that?
>
>
>
> Jim Bell's comment:
>
> Do you recall my suggestion from about 2 years ago that a new anonymity
> network be built, akin to TOR, but hosted by 1000+ people out of their
> homes and small businesses?  I mentioned using Raspberry Pi.
>
> I recall this a little.  I was feeling discouraged at the time.  Why worry
about hosting when everyone has a device already they are using to email
with?  Why start a new project rather than forking an old -- unless the old
ones are overcomplicated and unweildy.

> The main desirable thing is that unlimited-data Internet be available,
> which even then was true for 940 Mb/sec $65 month service.  (CenturyLink
> service).  I believe they are now  offering 100 Mbits/sec for $30/month,
> which should be plenty for an anonymzation network.
>
> I suggested that all nodes be able to act as output nodes, and that to
> facilitate this
>
> Tor used to function with everyone an exit by default, of course.

, all outputs be subject to mild (or better?) encryption, to ensure than
> plaintext never appears on any output node.  (To avoid inadvertently
> providing 'probable cause' to justify a search warrant.)
>
> Good idea.  A little similar to tor's exit node filtering for ssl (which
is mostly unused I believe).

>
> Is somebody ready to talk about this?
>
> How do my questions land?
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