War re Ukraine: Thread

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Putin Violated All when initiated crossing Ukraine border with mass
Russian Air Land Sea armed forces to murder tens of thousands
and destroy everything when no such mass violent aggression
had occured across Russia's borders. Putin is a criminal.



4 Minutes Of Undiluted Truth On Mainstream TV

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/4-minutes-of-undiluted-truth-on-mainstream-tv/
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1600669913676648451

The last thing you’d ever expect to hear on a mainstream news channel,
is the truth.

But - strange as it might seem - that’s exactly what happened on
Wednesday night on the Tucker Carlson Show. Carlson interviewed
veteran journalist Glenn Greenwald in a 4-minute segment that provided
the best ‘easy-to-understand’ summary of the Ukraine War you’ll hear
anywhere.

And what was so shocking about the interview, was how casually both
men veered onto topics that are essential to grasping “How we got to
where we are today” but which are entirely banned on all the other
cable news channels.

You are not allowed to know, for example, that Russia was “lured into
the conflict in Ukraine”. That does not fit the script that has been
passed-along from the Biden State Department to their lapdogs at the
cable news stations. You’re also not allowed to know that the US does
not fight wars “to spread democracy” or that “the US has no vital
interests in Ukraine” or that “Russia is not really our enemy”. All of
those topics are verboten. You’re not even allowed to think about
these things, which is why– for the most part– they have been
completely scrubbed from any-and-all discussion of foreign policy in
the corporate media.

That’s what makes the segment with Greenwald such a stunner, because
it’s 4 glorious minutes of pure, unvarnished truth delivered from a
platform that typically only produces, lies, disinformation and
propaganda.

    Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald: "If you want to believe the fairy
tale that the US government goes to war to spread democracy, Ukraine
is not the place for you." pic.twitter.com/dxgaVNYuj7
    — The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) December 8, 2022

That’s why I transcribed the entire interview. Any mistakes are mine.
Here it is:

    Tucker Carlson– What bothers me is not so much what Zelensky is
doing– there’s a lot of tyranny abound the world (and) I don’t brood
on it. But the fact that (a) we are paying for it, and (b) our leaders
are defending it. I think every American should be upset about that.

    Glenn Greenwald– “I think in general, Americans should be very
skeptical when the government says ‘We’re going to fight wars on the
other side of the world and spend tens of billions of dollars in
military aid to spread democracy.’ The US government doesn’t actually
care about spreading democracy. Many of its closest allies in the
world have always been some of the world’s most despotic regimes like
Saudi Arabia and Egypt. All the US government cares about is whether
these regimes serve US interests. …If you want to believe the fairy
tale that the US government goes to war to spread democracy, then
Ukraine is not the place for you. You mentioned the argument that
‘Zelensky is in war, he has to curb liberty’, but go back to 2021, a
year before Russia invaded and you’ll find articles where he shut down
opposition television stations and shut down opposition political
parties (which is) the hallmark of what every tyrant or despot
does….and that was true even before Russia invaded.”

    Tucker Carlson– I wonder how Republicans can continue to defend
this (because) I think you are right; I think our foreign policy is
almost always about defending our interests…. But I don’t see our
critical interests at stake here, so, what is this about?

    Glenn Greenwald– If the US government was honest… they would get
rid of this script that we have to go and defend democracy. That is a
fairy tale that tries to get Americans to feel better about the fact
that we are involved in many, many countries all over the world. That
is not the real reason. The only reason to do it is for ‘vital US
interests’. The line in Washington for decades was the US has no vital
interests in Ukraine. That was Obama’s view, that was the bipartisan
view. Why did that change? The only reason is because we saw an
opportunity to trap Russia inside Ukraine all based on the view that
Russia is our enemy (which is) something only Democrats should believe
because they think Russia is to blame for the 2016 election and
Hillary’s defeat. But why would Republicans want confrontation with
Russia? What American benefits from that except arms manufacturers? …

    Tucker Carlson– That’s a really good question, and I haven’t
unraveled it. (But) It seems pretty clear that the Biden
administration baited Russia into this invasion. You had the Vice
President (Kamala Harris) in western Europe days before telling
Zelensky to join NATO which, of course, they knew was a red line (for
Russia) They wanted this invasion, I think that’s very obvious. Do you
think this was all about ‘preparing for war with Russia’?

    Glenn Greenwald– If you think Russia is a grave enemy of the
United States, then it makes sense to try to lure them into a war that
they can’t win, like we got lured into Afghanistan for 20 years or
like we lured the Soviet Union into Afghanistan back in the ’70s
because it does deplete your enemy. The question is: Why should Russia
be seen as our enemy? Both Obama and Trump said there’s no reason to
see Russia that way. It has one-fifteenth the size of our military
budget. It’s not threatening American borders. Why are we so obsessed
with spending tens of billions of dollars to weaken Russia which we
could be using here at home to benefit the lives of American citizens
when Russia is not doing anything to the United States unless you are
a crazy ‘resistance’ person who believes they’re the reason Donald
Trump won. But if you don’t believe that, what is the rational for
this? There is none.”

    Tucker Carlson– “I know, and as always, they have hijacked the
best instincts of the American people, their compassion, and turned it
against them. Glenn Greenwald, great to see you tonight”.