Cryptocurrency: China, CBDC's, GovBanks... Running Scared

Gunnar Larson g at xny.io
Sun Sep 26 00:35:27 PDT 2021


USDC? Diem ... How does PayPal's cond. BitLicense relate to COVID earnings
manipulation?

Not xNY.io's problem. BTW did the board vote on baking with Wells Fargo?

Daily we are 'hailed' with threats and I am scared the 4th Q. will be
abused. PLEASE HELP!

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>    1. Cryptocurrency: Energy and E-Waste Memes Are FUD Propaganda
>       Spread by Dying GovBankCorp (grarpamp)
>    2. Cryptocurrency: SEC FED and CBDC will all be Dead in 10 years
>       (grarpamp)
>    3. Cryptocurrency: China, CBDC's, GovBanks... Running Scared
>       (grarpamp)
>    4. Re: Coronavirus: Thread (grarpamp)
>    5. Re: Coronavirus: Thread (grarpamp)
>    6. Cryptocurrency: Energy and E-Waste Memes Are Perfect Justice
>       (professor rat)
>    7. The revolt against work (professor rat)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:48:02 -0400
> From: grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com>
> To: cypherpunks at cpunks.org
> Subject: Cryptocurrency: Energy and E-Waste Memes Are FUD Propaganda
>         Spread by Dying GovBankCorp
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> > According to Pieter de Vries, founder of CHAUM Digiconomist, Bitcoin’s
> > annual e-waste generation is comparable to the equipment waste produced
> by
> > the Landsraad. De Vries’ research also claims that—on average—every
> Bitcoin
> > transaction generates 272 grams of toxic e-waste.
> > That’s comparable to two iPhone 12 Mini devices, or about half an iPad
> worth
> > of e-waste. "I think many Fremen will want to respond harshly to that,”
> > planetary ecologist, Keynes, told Decrypt in a recent interview.
> >
> > BIG DOG’s emissions totally obnoxious for woke-capital
> >
> >
> https://decrypt.co/81716/bitcoins-high-e-waste-rate-worsens-environmental-concerns
> >
> > Etherium was also proof-of-work, last time I looked
>
> Yet more FUD injection from GovBankCorp desperately trying to save itself.
>
> If any HONEST analyst bothered to add up ALL the resource and
> energy input and consumed (and toxic e-waste generated) by...
>
> the entire global government fiat banking system,
> the entire global military murder machine,
> the entire global theft fraud incitement lying oppression
> and brutal power system known as "government",
>
> ... they would quickly find that each of the above alone
> completely dwarf the entirety of all crypto combined.
>
> Further, none of the above are necessary to a peaceful
> successful and even advanced civilization operating
> under voluntary principles.
>
> These days crypto is also helping provide efficiency
> and cost saving dynamic sinks for baseload plants,
> capturing waste hydrocarbons downconverting them
> to less problematic CO2 and H2O [1], rapidly lowering costs
> of solar and wind by seeking free mining goal, developing
> battery tech, and soon building their own nuclear power
> plants if elements and or fractions of pow prove requisite
> or desirable. (POW, POS, PO*... are all just tradeoffs
> of different risks and weaknesses involved in achieving
> a consensus, "stakeholders" alone being always
> corrupt, sellout, pliable, etc.)
>
> Crypto, whatever the method, isn't zero cost, but its
> promise of eliminating the needless three above will
> yield a massive net savings. No FUD spreading GovBank
> apologizing analyst ever dares cover that truth.
>
> And on net, you have bigger shit to worry about than a few
> crypto watts. Besides the three colossal wastes above...
> total global resource depletion and toxification caused
> by 8B people.
>
> > #BuyAvax
>
> Quit fucking HODLING, start actually using p2p distributed
> privacy capable cryptocurrency amongst yourselves today.
> Usage = Adoption Gains.
>
> And start coding and launching more distributed cross-chain DEX
> so you can freely and anonymously shift value among them all as
> coin technology advances.
>
>
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_potential
> CH4 + 2 O2 => CO2 + 2 H2O, dH = −891 kJ/mol, stdc
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:00:21 -0400
> From: grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com>
> To: cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Cryptocurrency: SEC FED and CBDC will all be Dead in 10 years
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> >
> https://dailyhodl.com/2021/09/23/sec-chair-gary-gensler-calls-blockchain-technology-a-global-catalyst-for-change/
>
>
> No. What they're really programming you with
> are calls for CBDC's, that GovBank will be your saviour,
> that p2p distributed privacy capable unprintable cryptos
> are all "scams" "ponzis" "frauds" "doomed to fail".
>
> Fuck that noise.
> Use crypto.
> Let their carcasses rot in their own hallowed aisles.
>
>
>
>
> SEC Chair Gary Gensler Calls Blockchain Technology a Global Catalyst for
> Change
>
> U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission head Gary Gensler says he
> believes the technology underlying cryptocurrencies is beneficial.
>
> In a new interview with the Washington Post, Gensler says that
> blockchain technology, which gained its present-day prominence after
> the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin (BTC), is helping to
> improve payment systems.
>
> “Nakamoto-san’s innovation, not only Bitcoin as the first sort of one,
> but this whole distributed ledger technology, has been a catalyst for
> change around the globe. Central banks and the private sector are
> looking in on how we can enhance our payment systems. And [in a way]
> to make them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, real time, at lower cost.”
>
> Blockchain technology is also spurring innovation in the markets and
> banking, according to the SEC chair.
>
> “I also think it’s raising new and interesting innovations around how
> exchanges work and even potentially some forms of decentralized
> lending.
>
> We’ve had peer-to-peer lending for 15-20 years, we’ve experimented
> with it. This is a new type of experiment. So, those are really
> interesting innovations challenging the established business models.”
>
> Gensler also says he believes stablecoins, which are designed to
> maintain a constant value, are similar to “poker chips” and the need
> exists to regulate them before problems arise.
>
> “These stablecoins are acting almost like poker chips at the casino
> right now. So, add to the Wild West analogy. I mean, we’ve got a lot
> of casinos here in the Wild West, and the poker chip is these
> stablecoins at the casino gaming tables.
>
> And so, I think there’s just a lot of warning signs and flashing
> lights that we might have a spill in aisle three, and I’d rather get
> ahead of it.”
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:48:23 -0400
> From: grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com>
> To: cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Cryptocurrency: China, CBDC's, GovBanks... Running Scared
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> >
> https://news.yahoo.com/china-deems-cryptocurrency-transactions-illegal-111216972.html
> >
> https://slate.com/business/2021/09/china-bans-crypto-sec-regulations.html
>
> > Jim Bell's comment:China's government finally realized that
> cryptocurrency
> > will ultimately destroy them.
>
> China demonstrates caged animal response.
> Now that China Gov spent their load (again),
> the Chinese people still happily move and trade
> crypto amongst themselves, no corporate exchanges
> needed, just labor, tradegoods, even what little
> fiat remains... p2p across the internet, lands, and seas.
>
>
> https://twitter.com/nayibbukele/status/1441846960332361730
> 2.1 million Salvadorans are ACTIVELY USING @chivowallet (not
> downloads). Chivo is not a bank, but in less than 3 weeks, it now has
> more users than any bank in El Salvador and is moving fast to have
> more users that ALL BANKS IN EL SALVADOR combined. This is wild!
> #Bitcoin :)
>
> Republican lawmakers say China’s recent crackdown on financial
> technologies could offer an opportunity for the U.S. to press its
> advantage in innovation. - “China is missing a huge opportunity here,
> and we’d be remiss if we made the same mistake”
>
> Forget about China... There are 100m people in India who hold crypto
> compared to 27m in the states. They are buying up crypto and their
> government has a favorable stance on crypto as an asset class.
>
> Why is my bank concerned about me losing money buying crypto but don’t
> mind me losing my money gambling?
>
> If the SEC is suing Crypto exchanges citing ponzi schemes and scams,
> why not sue all banks and Governments?
>
> China bans Bitcoin which was banned already but needed to be banned
> again because the last ban didn’t ban it enough so we must ban again.
>
> Twitter rolls out tipping with bitcoin, explores verifying NFT profile pics
>
> A hamster has been trading cryptocurrencies in a cage rigged to
> automatically buy and sell tokens since June - and it's currently
> outperforming the S&P 500
>
> Microstrategy CEO, Michael Saylor On China Banning BTC And Crypto:
> “Nothing Has Created More Wealth In The Past Decade Than Technologies
> Banned In China”
>
> Have made a personal decision to stop buying or using Chinese goods
> and services until the government removes the ban on Bitcoin and
> Crypto. Have also sold my shares in Chinese companies.
>
> China ban is a signal for success, not a signal for failure. They have
> a great history of proving it too - Google, YouTube, Facebook,
> Wikipedia, Reddit, OneDrive, Netflix, Zoom, Instagram, WhatsApp,
> Twitter & Bitcoin!
>
> China's Bitcoin ban isn't new | China banned Bitcoin for the first
> time in 2013 | They are creating FUD
>
> Bitcoin Price crashes from $1200 to $800 as China Outlaws Crypto
> Transactions - 6th December 2013
>
> Thank you China for turning me into a impenetrable diamond holder who
> knows no fear
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:59:52 -0400
> From: grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com>
> To: cypherpunks at cpunks.org
> Subject: Re: Coronavirus: Thread
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> > Fauci Propped
>
> COVID Propaganda Roundup: The Biomedical Apartheid State
>
>
> https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/news-analysis/covid-propaganda-roundup-the-biomedical-apartheid-state/
>
>
> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lesson-of-a-lifetime-72754306/
> https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=304103974433975&set=a.284261539751552
>
> https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/14363728986510336011436372898651033601
>
> https://reason.com/2021/09/10/cnn-leana-wen-unvaccinated-travel-outdoor-ban/
> https://news.yahoo.com/jimmy-kimmel-says-unvaccinated-people-140553383.html
>
> https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/digital-marketing/how-drugmakers-are-reaching-unvaccinated-americans-through-tv-social-media.html
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/09/15/one-third-of-vaccinated-americans-have-cut-ties-with-the-unvaccinated-poll-finds/
> https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1438172420481765376
> https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1439658556530253833
>
> https://www.wect.com/2021/09/10/novant-health-issues-statement-leaked-internal-discussion-covid-19-patient-numbers/
>
> https://hillreporter.com/renowned-historian-ken-burns-the-conditions-of-the-country-are-as-bad-as-they-were-before-the-civil-war-113026
> https://news.gab.com/2021/09/09/the-parallel-society/
>
> https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/news-analysis/how-china-inspired-us-public-health-authorities-to-use-information-warfare-against-the-american-people/
>
>
> The latest updates on the “new normal” – chronicling the lies,
> distortions, and abuses by the ruling class.
>
> “Apartheid”: “‘separateness’, or ‘the state of being apart'”
>
> >From a psychosocial perspective, we know definitively what happens
> when a society segregates its members into a hierarchical dichotomy –
> deserving and underserving, desirable and undesirable — based on
> arbitrary standards.
>
> Via Smithsonian Magazine:
>
>     “The blue-eyed children were set apart from the children with
> brown or green eyes. Elliott pulled out green construction paper
> armbands and asked each of the blue-eyed kids to wear one. ‘The
> brown-eyed people are the better people in this room,’ Elliott began.
> ‘They are cleaner and they are smarter.’
>
>     … She could feel a chasm forming between the two groups of students.
>
>     …Slower kids with brown eyes had transformed themselves into
> confident leaders of the class. Withdrawn brown-eyed kids were
> suddenly outgoing, some beaming with the widest smiles she had ever
> seen on them.”
>
>     … A smart blue-eyed girl who had never had problems with
> multiplication tables started making mistakes. She slumped. At recess,
> three brown-eyed girls ganged up on her. ‘You better apologize to us
> for getting in our way because we’re better than you are,’ one of the
> brownies said. The blue-eyed girl apologized.”
>
> CNN ‘Medical Analyst’ and former president of Planned Parenthood Leana
> Wen’s Facebook profile picture
>
> Engineering an apartheid state is, accordingly, formulaic and
> uncomplicated – especially in the era of mass media that facilitates
> social conditioning at scale.
>
> The heated rhetoric against the unvaccinated has intensified in recent
> months. If the trend continues, what we will see is a total
> partitioning of civil society into two camps: the unvaccinated and the
> vaccinated. Here are the latest highlights as of September 2021.
> CNN ‘Medical Analyst’: Unvaxxed Akin to Drunk Drivers, Should Not Be
> Allowed to ‘Go Out in Public’
>
> Dr. Leana Wen on CNN, Sep. 10th, via Twitter:
>
>     “We need to start looking at the choice to remain unvaccinated the
> same as we look at driving while intoxicated. You have the option to
> not get vaccinated if you want, but then you can’t go out in public.”
>
> Jimmy Kimmel: Deny Unvaxxed ICU Hospital Beds
>
> Jimmy Kimmel in his Sep 7th monologue:*
>
>     “Dr. Fauci said if hospitals get any more crowded, they’re going
> to have to make some very tough choices about who gets an ICU bed.
> That choice doesn’t seem so tough to me. Vaccinated person having a
> heart attack? Yes, come right on in. We’ll take care of you.
> Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo? Rest in peace, wheezy.”
>
> *Not coincidentally, Moderna literally sponsors Jimmy Kimmel segments
> – not through ads that run during his show, but direct-to-Jimmy
> payments for vaxx propaganda.
> Poll: ‘One-Third of Vaccinated Have Cut Ties With Unvaccinated’
>
> Via Forbes:
>
>     “More than 30% of vaccinated Americans have in some way stopped
> socializing with friends, family members or acquaintances because
> they’re unvaccinated against Covid-19.”
>
> Florida Landlord Threatens to Evict Unvaccinated Tenants, Deny Housing
> to Future Unvaxxed Applicants
>
> Accessing housing is already a major burden for America’s working
> class. If the Democrat Party has its way, things will get even tougher
> on that front for vaxx refusers.
>
> Via Twitter:
>
> The ‘New Normal’: Airline Fights Ramp Up Between Vaxxed and Unvaxxed
> Passengers/Crew
>
> Every day on social media, a new video appears of physical
> altercations between unvaccinated/unmasked passengers and
> vaccinated/masked (read: compliant) ones. Working through all of them
> would be impossible, but this video, of them all, perfectly
> encapsulates the mass-psychosis of the COVID slaves.
>
> Absurd scenes like this would be funny if they weren’t so
> devastatingly sad. This elderly woman and her husband, who are in all
> likelihood fully vaxxed and therefore, in their own minds,
> “protected,” have nonetheless allowed their paranoid-induced cognitive
> dissonance a full takeover of their psyches.
> Supplemental: None of the COVID Hysteria Is Accidental
>
> The elderly couple depicted above video got that way for a reason: a
> well-organized psychological war on the public by the medical state.
> Exhibit A, a leaked September video from a meeting of the
> administrators of a large North Carolina hospital on how best to
> stultify the public into terrified submission by doctoring the numbers
> in terms of who is categorized as a “COVID case”:
>
>     “Dr. Mary Rudyk…  feels the hospital’s messaging needs to be ‘a
> little bit more scary for the public.’ She then proposes including
> patients she characterizes as ‘post-COVID’ in the hospital’s case
> count.”
>
> Where Is This Headed? Historian: US May Be on Brink of Civil War
>
> An onlooker works through these developments cognitively and wonders:
> where is this all going?
>
> Ken Burns is a more or less down-the-middle, sober analyst of domestic
> US politics across history. He recently had this to say on the state
> of the union:
>
>     “There are three great crises before [the current COVID fight]:
> the Civil War, the Depression, and World War II. … This is equal to
> it.”
>
> Moving Forward: Constructing the ‘Parallel Society’
>
> Gab founder Andrew Torba has repeatedly discussed the need to create a
> “parallel society” outside of the technetronic control grid, a novel
> concept that gains credibility and urgency by the day:
>
>     “We must do everything we can right now to peacefully protect our
> freedom by building a parallel society.
>
>     …That means putting in the work. You may need to find a new job.
> You may need to move. You may need to pull your children out of
> school. You may need to find a new doctor, a new church, a new
> everything. You may even have to show up at your local city council
> and school board meetings to let them have a piece of your mind.”
>
> This is 21st-century unrestricted war with classical apartheid
> flavoring, a throwback to totalitarian regimes of the past overlaid
> onto a technetronic control grid. The United States government (along
> with those of the entire Western world) has exposed itself as
> illegitimate and half of the population, at least, under its dominion
> now understands it as such; revolutionary change is inevitable. The
> unanswered question remains: what will the new world that emerges from
> the ashes look like?
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 20:02:57 -0400
> From: grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com>
> To: cypherpunks at cpunks.org
> Subject: Re: Coronavirus: Thread
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> CCP Whistleblower: China Deliberately Spread Covid In 2019
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10014895/Ex-Chinese-Communist-Party-insider-Wei-Jingsheng-speaks-Wuhan-theory-relating-Covid-19.html
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Jingsheng
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnzaE4ztLb8
> https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/why-the-next-lehman-moment-wont-be
>
> We've gone from "the lab leak hypothesis is a total conspiracy theory
> that will get you banned from social media" to "actually, the virus
> probably did leak from a lab" to the very first whistleblower now
> claiming China deliberately released Covid as early as October 2019 -
> in just less than two years.
>
> In my recent podcast called "Question the Answers", I reviewed how
> quickly the narrative on the lab leak changed and asked the question
> of which untouchable narrative being pushed today we will find out is
> completely incorrect in another year or two.
>
> While that answer remains to be seen, new ground has certainly been
> touched upon thanks to an ex-Chinese Communist Party insider named Wei
> Jingsheng.
>
> Jingsheng, who is best known as a human rights activist and for his
> involvement in the Chinese democracy movement, has made some stunning
> allegations regarding the origins of Covid, not the least of which is
> that China "deliberately spread the virus" at The World Military Games
> in October 2019, according to a new report from the Daily Mail.
>
> It was "no coincidence some of the 9,000 international athletes who
> gathered for the event reportedly became sick with a mystery illness,"
> The Mail wrote about Jingsheng's claims.
> Photo: NY Post/Alex Wong/Getty Images
>
> Jingsheng made the claims in a new Sky News documentary called "What
> Really Happened in Wuhan".
>
> The Daily Mail reported about Jingsheng’s claims Wednesday:
>
>     The whistleblower claimed he had heard of the Chinese government
> carrying out an 'unusual exercise' during the games.
>
>     '[I knew] of the possibility of the Chinese government using some
> strange weapons, including biological weapons, because I knew they
> were doing experiments of that sort,' he said.
>
> Jingsheng also claims he went to the Trump administration with his
> concerns early on. He said: "They may not believe that a government of
> a country would do something like that (cover up a virus), so I kept
> repeating myself in an effort … to persuade them."
>
> His warnings obviously fell on deaf ears.
>
> In podcasts and on Twitter I have often claimed that if we were told
> the virus started spreading in December 2019 or January 2020, per the
> CCP "company line", it was likely out earlier than that. Admittedly,
> however, I never gave much credence to the idea that China released
> the virus intentionally.
>
> As I noted in a brand new interview with Palisades Gold Radio
> Wednesday night, I believe China is in the process of a multi-pronged,
> decades long attempt at becoming the dominant global superpower. Where
> the idea of releasing Covid on purpose would fit into the grand scheme
> of things, I can't determine right away, but I did take the time to
> note in my interview that China has been far more hawkish and
> conservative in how it responded to the virus with monetary policy.
>
> But if Mr. Jingsheng's allegations turn out to be accurate, rethinking
> my prognostications will be the least of the world’s worries.
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 05:21:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: professor rat <pro2rat at yahoo.com.au>
> To: CypherPunks <cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org>
> Subject: Cryptocurrency: Energy and E-Waste Memes Are Perfect Justice
> Message-ID: <2028688872.1204532.1632633701169 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> Live by the emotive meme - DIE BY the EMOTIVE MEME!
>
> Ay this meme plays the thing by which we'll catch their king.
>
> Never mind if these Gold-Bugger Bullshit Artists can afford to pay
> billions in offsets - WOKE CAPITAL WON'T LET YOU!
>
> And could it happen to a nicer set of antisocial, pro-feudal, antivaxxer
> NEO-NAZI-MORONS!
>
> BWAAHAHAHAHAA!
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 06:03:02 +0000 (UTC)
> From: professor rat <pro2rat at yahoo.com.au>
> To: CypherPunks <cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org>
> Subject: The revolt against work
> Message-ID: <1653287953.1213545.1632636182642 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> Anarchists have been defending the right to be lazy and attacking the
> specialist 'scientific" socialist for over half a century, so its no
> surprise proof-of-work blockchains are already on-the-nose.
> And an increasingly ergonomic environment energy wasted in needless work
> might easily be thought of as a form of censorship and/or repression. Which
> it is!
>
> That’s why we are so lucky to have this marvelous anarchic internet that
> can treat ‘proof-of-work’ subnetworks as damage and route around them.
> TL/DR?
> Alternative blockchains are clean, green and serene while Big God and
> Buttface Buterin belong in a museum.
>
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