Dishonest Tor relay math question - tor-talk is to lazy

Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 punks at tfwno.gf
Mon Oct 18 16:40:12 PDT 2021


On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:23:27 +0100
Peter Fairbrother <peter at tsto.co.uk> wrote:

> On 16/10/2021 06:45, grarpamp wrote:
> > On 10/15/21, Peter Fairbrother <peter at tsto.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Nothing about a base layer of chaff prevents
> > "low-latency browsing" as an application.
> 
> Except the increased bandwidth cost. And if you have to have padding 
> between each node, or on each link, that becomes very expensive.


	that bit of propaganda has been repeated ad nauseam. Notice that it's exactly what the tor mafia says.


> 
> Suppose you want to download a bloated web page of 4MB in 4 seconds then 
> your base flow is >1MB/s. Running that 24/7 for a month, that's 2.5 TB 
> per month. 500 times more than an average user's 50 GB/month..


	that's technically correct, except, the point is not to allow some random asshole  to download a bloated webpage in 4 seconds cause he's high on meth and can't wait. You are pretending that the only use case is the worst case. 

	And even in that worst case, you can have high rate 'chaff' for a few hours, if the same user is, say, dowloading a movie. So his traffic would get 'mixed' for a few hours, and he would be part of some 'anonimity set'. 



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