Who rules the world - Amazon Sidewalk

Karl gmkarl at gmail.com
Wed Nov 10 09:50:06 PST 2021


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 8:20 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 16:57:38 -0500
> Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > eh i'm in the usa.  if you call psychatrists a mafia too much you can end
> > up living in a 'hospital'.  makes sense, no?
>
>         yeah. Same thing here, like in other 'free' 'western' 'democratic'
> countries where there are no personal rights. But I suppose the US is
> especially bad with all the 'autism' and children being poisoned with meth
> to 'cure' them from 'ADD' etc. Well it's bell's system : FASCIST SCIENCE
> EXPLAINS EVERYTHING. Or rather it executes anybody who doesn't obey.


somewhere there's a middle ground

> > I am a nutcase pretending to be a nutcase already: but what you mean is
> > > > that you'd like to hear more supportive things from me?
> > >
> > >         Well, you galantly came to the rescue of the jew mafia...while
> > > pretending to be crazy. Make of that what you will.
> > >
> >
> > I personally have zero experience indicating jews are a mafia, aside from
> > stories I have heard from palestine, which is very far away and at war
> with
> > a group of jews.
>
>
>         So you don't know that the anglo-US-jew nazis invaded palestine
> and stole most of the land? You think the palestinians are 'biased' and the
> poor western-jew invaders are...the victims of 'bad press'?


no, from what i've heard both groups express a lot of validity over being
there, and I haven't heard either story.

I'll side with whoever's losing, unless people I side with are hurt by my
targeting, then i'll side with the winner.  let me know whom to root for.

if both sides are balanced let's make them talk together and sort the
conflict out.

> > I hear you say that some things that are total shit are done by people
> who
> > > > are jewish.  I don't hear you relating that being jewish is why they
> are
> > > > being done, in the slightest.
> > >
> > >
> > >         I actually explained why, but that's a
> >
> >
> > maybe in a different email?
>
>
>         yes in a different email. But since you complained about my
> statement of facts regarding  the jews, you should have seen that one as
> well.
>
>         But ok, for completness sake : jew ideology is a mix of theocracy,
> racism and supremacist views according to which the jews have been 'chosen'
> by some nazi 'god' who 'owns the universe'. It's no wonder that people who
> see themselves as g'd's chosen master race comit all sort of crimes against
> anybody who isn't a jew.
>

what religions are you usually around?  in the usa i'm exposed to
christianity a lot.  i have some fear of christianity myself.

> secondary point here. The main point is that jews are waay overrepresented
> > > in govcorp criminal activity. It doesn't really matter WHY that's the
> case,
> > > though.
> > >
> >
> > don't white men overall have the jewish group beat?  like, most govcorp
> > criminals are white men.
>
>
>         In absolute numbers, of course. Fact remains though, the
> percentage of jews involved in crimes against humanity is waaaaay higher
> than the percentage of jews in the overall population. It shouldn't be
> something hard to grasp...
>

this seems again more true for white men in general, than for jews.

        As a side note, many jews are a mix of arab with european,
> 'ethnicallly' speaking, but they see themselves as members of the master
> race anyway. In general 'authentic white' western imperialists and jew
> imperialists are close cousins if not the same people.


i'm white myself, maybe i'm jew enough to run google?

so the jew thing sounds ridiculous to me.  notably in my country (the usa)
we have legitimised christian dominance, jews are nonrepresented for
example in economic holidays.

> >
> > >         https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/
> > >
> > >         1 musk      338 $b (beloved hero of technofascist asshole jim
> bell)
> > >         2 bezos     202
> > >         3 arnault   172
> > >         4 gates     138
> > >         5 page      132  JOO
> > >         6 brin      127  JOO
> > >         7 fukerberg 127  JOO
> > >         8 ballmer   119  JOO
> > >         9 ellison   116  JOO
> > >        10 buffett   105
> >
> >
> > this depication has impact.  I think this argument would still work
> better
> > for describing a white male mafia overall, though.  I wonder what
> > ethnicities and religions the other billionaires are.
>
>
>         well yes, majority of govcorp mafia in the west and colonies is
> white male. Yet the jew mafia is a big subset of that mafia. As clearly
> shown by the ranking of 'billionaires'.
>
>
>         I was expecting that something like 20/30% of wall street banks
> were jew banks. Yes, the majoriy would be NON jew and so the majority of
> mischief would be traced to 'aryan' banks, just like I said, and contrary
> to the "jews control everything" meme. But, I couldn't find the  data,
> which I assume is being maliciously hidden.
>
>         Still, the rank of individual criminals and how much they stole is
> even more damning for the 'poor jews'.
>

could jews be considered allies against the larger danger of govcorp white
male billionaires?  since they are the minority, they might struggle
alongside others.

>
> > I'm worried that if I start calling everyone a nazi jew that a demon will
> > throw me in one of the modern concentration camps where cia agents whip
> you
> > with your wet underwear to prevent you from sleeping.
>
>
>         That's not unlikely. There are (many) parts of the western
> cesspool where you probably can end up in jail for not being a jew
> 'supporter' who parrot the jew party line.

OOPS. So jews are enemies of free speech who use the government to attack
> people who say stuff they don't like. Shocking.


the usa culture is such that people feel extra shocked at a phrase like
"nazi jew", it's possible you'd offend the neonazis, the jews, the righties
and the lefties, the biggies, mediumies, and smallies, leaving nobody
interested in defending you.  maybe not though!

        Seems that the US hasn't added 'hate speech' to the list of
> government-invented crimes yet, but I wouldn't trust their protection of
> free speech too much anyway.


free speech is often defended by being quiet for those who are not talking,
to have more opportunity to speak.

free speech is not present if somebody is yelling something too loudly and
for too long for others to be heard.

nor is it present if the person yelling cannot speak.

free speech means dialog.  it means multiple viewpoints need to be able to
exchange information and learn from each other.

> mostly because i'll
> > feel so guilty to be disrespecting a history held by so many people.
>
>
>         yeah a lie held by so many people.
>

what's the lie here?


>
>
> > > >         yeah poor pieces of jew shit don't wield any power..
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the second seeming logical contradiction in your email.
> > >
> > >
> > >         That was sarcasm. I was sarcastically
> >
> >
> > sorry I get more stupid when reading these things cause they shock my
> > liberal upbringing
>
>
>         haha.
>
> >
> > referring to 'poor little oppressed' jews...who don't virtually exist. Of
> > > course there must be some jews who are actually poor out there but
> they are
> > > completely irrelevant in the gran scheme of things.
> >
> >
> > like many groups, jews have seasonal holidays where they celebrate a
> > history of difficulty and spend days and days contemplating experiences
> of
> > difficulty.
>
>
>         well yes, like I said, jews are always playing the victim. When
> you look at reality


I mean it is written in their religion to spend days at a time retelling
and reliving written stories of suffering from their religious texts

tho, it turns out that jews are the ones running the concentration camps in
> palestine, there are jews running the arpanet gestapo for the pentagon,
> robbing the world blind through dollar inflation, etc etc.


white men you mean

> > I wonder  if some of these phrases were inserted by someone else.  We
> > > could try out
> > > > age/nacl/pgp signatures or something!
> > >
> > >
> > >         No, they were inserted by me.
> >
> >
> > but you can't know this for sure.  you could be talking to somebody or
> > something pretending to be me to you.
>
>
>         well yeah, but if you think you're in the matrix, then signatures
> are just as fake as anything else.


how's that now?  we could start a new thread where we communicate via
optical cryptography or something.  throw some sand on a projector and use
it to visually xor your message.

        You saw something you thought was illogical but it turned out to be
> 'illogical' by design, since sarcasm is usually implemented by saying the
> opposite of what one means. And I then further confirmed that I wrote the
> 'illogical' line. We don't need signatures =)
>

so long as we don't use signatures I can keep representing you as a racist
troll to everyone else by mutating your messages in transit.

> if it turns out that most jews are poor doesn't that kind of undercut a
> > point that wealthy criminality would be related to being a jew?
>
>         I don't think so. The majority of all people are poor.


so it's a statistical tendency here you're concern with?

say we were to turn everyone bad into a lawn gnome.  since some bad people
are jews, we could reduce the number of bad people by turning all jews into
lawn gnomes.  but _mostly_ we'd get other people, who aren't bad.  doesn't
this seem unideal?  ignoring other associated tragedies like the loss of an
entire religious clade.

if you want to hit billionaires, turning white men into lawn gnomes would
take out more of them, and leave the women around to keep their cultures
going.  but really the target you're looking for there is wealthy people.
considering the wealthy will really narrow the lawn gnome crater down if
trying to take out billionaires.

        On the other hand, the list of billionaires is just the beginning
> of the list of all people so if there are a lot of jews at the top, I'd
> expect the same pattern to exist at lower levels. And look, it's exactly
> like that :
>
>
> https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/


I haven't clicked your link at this time but the information sounds
interesting.


>
> >
> > a implies b does not indicate b implies a
>
>
>         Ok, so let me rephrase : if there was no 'correlation' between
> being a jew and being a high ranking criminal, then you'd expect that the
> list of the first hundred billionaires had in it 0.17 jews, because 0.17%
> is the percentage of jews with respect to world population.
>
>         But, it turns out that the percentage of jew billionaires is not
> 0.17%, it's 30% - it's 176 times higher than it should be.
>
>         Clearly being a jew DOES NOT prevent people from being a high
> ranking criminal, rather, it makes it A LOT MORE LIKELY.
>

we suspect the relation here has to do with a religious culture that
teaches habits of prosperity, but further studies are needed.

capitalism is a trick dude.  if you can stop buying stuff you can get as
wealthy as you want.  everyone is told they need to buy stuff by the media
all their life, but lots of people have religions exposing them to other
information.

        It is too bad for jew propagandists but this is a plain fact that
> cannot be twisted.


kinda cool you have this statistic going for you, a little worrying what
kind of propaganda might be being spread, though

        As a side note, the typical 'explanation' you'd get from jew
> fascists is that this 'anomaly' is caused by the fact that jews are oh so
> very clever and virtuous (of course it's fine to be racist when saying good
> things


compliments aren't racist, they don't result in people choosing to harm the
group in question

about jews). That explanation comes from criminal themselves who pretend
> that being the 'founder' of joogle makes you 'clever' instead of a
> criminal...
>

technobubble made clever nerds into billionaire criminals

when I found a jain temple I was impressed that some of the people seemed
to have such wealth.  and i'm impressed that the world still seems to have
so many problems when people have such wealth.

we should solve all the problems of the world via productive collaboration
between all parties.  if you disagree you are a government agent of
disruption.

        So they don't deny that there's something 'especial' about high
> ranking criminal jews. But they replace 'criminal' with 'clever'
> 'free-market' 'entrepreneur'.
>

somebody is telling that story of free-market entrepeneurship.  I think
they might be dead now but they have millions of children.

> logic needs to encompass enough reasons to form conclusions.
>
>
>         yeah. But so far you haven't found any flaw in what I'm saying.


on the contrary, that is where you stand.

>         so what's your take on companies like joogle and fukerbook
> > > controlling vast sections of the arpanet? Oh wait you're a joogle user
> > > yourself...
> > >
> >
> > power corrupts.  even if you're an angel (not that these guys are),
> > somebody else is corrupt and will try to use you to gain power, and
> > influence you to support their power.
>
>
>         yeah. But those companies are corrupt by definition. Their whole
> 'business model' is


power and communities of power have corrupted people for some time in lots
of ways

based on spying. They were 'founded' that way. In the words of marx
> fukerberg itself :
>
>         https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg
>
>         Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
>         Zuck: Just ask
>         Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
>         [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
>         Zuck: People just submitted it.
>         Zuck: I don't know why.
>         Zuck: They "trust me"
>         Zuck: Dumb fucks
>

this current issue is omnipresent. zuckerberg is a great villain, but seems
unwilling to be killed by a hero, which makes sense since he was probably
forced to spy on everyone by government order, and is trying to make a
billion off it.  what is next?

the big problem with facebook etc is not only that computers are insecure
and public channels are gamable by third parties, but that reinforcement
learning is _highly_ efficient when massively parallelised.  translation:
you can quickly train a computer algorithm to predict and direct the real
world behavior of users of a social network, if you are a powerful entity
that controls it.  so the largest social network controls the world, and we
really need community direction rather than individual leadership in
scenarios like that.

[phone misbehavior lost text]> I don't use the real google.  i'm kind of
like a s.a.a.s.s. hostage waiting

> > to be rescued by an mta that etches its server logs to a blockchain and
> > uses public key cryptography to log in.
>
>
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