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Sun Nov 7 01:21:20 PDT 2021

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CDC Director Refuses To Tell Senators How Many CDC Employees Are Fully-Vaxx'd

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on
Thursday declined to share with a Senate panel how many of the
agency’s workers have gotten a COVID-19 vaccine.

The agency, or the CDC, has been at the forefront of pushing COVID-19
vaccination during the pandemic since the first vaccine received
emergency authorization late last year.

    “What percent of CDC employees are vaccinated?” Sen. Bill Cassidy
(R-La.) asked Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC’s head, during a Senate
Health Committee hearing in Washington.

    “We’re actively encouraging vaccination in all of our employees
and doing outreach in order to get our agency vaccinated,” Walensky

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the top Republican on the panel, revisited
the topic just before the hearing ended.

    “Do you really not know the answer to the number of vaccinated
individuals at CDC or did you just not want to answer Sen. Cassidy’s
question?” Burr wondered.

Walensky declined to answer directly.

    “We’re still actively working on collecting those data and those
data are updated in real-time,” she said.

Burr asked for the numbers to be sent to the committee by Nov. 8.

    “We are working toward updating that data. I would have to speak
with my staff about where we are and whether those numbers are going
to be available on Monday,” Walensky said.

Burr noted that one of President Joe Biden’s executive orders mandates
all federal employees, including CDC workers, must produce proof of
vaccination by Nov. 8 or face disciplinary action.

    “If the collection is still in process, how are you going to start
disciplinary actions based upon the executive order?” Burr asked.

    “We’re actively updating those data. I just don’t know exactly
when they will be fully in, but certainly we will have those data by
the appropriate deadline,” Walensky said.

“If the CDC doesn’t have to live by the rules, why should employers
have to live by the mandate rules?” Burr then asked, referring to a
vaccine mandate that was unveiled by the Biden administration earlier
in the day.

    “I will make sure we’re complying with the rules because we want
everyone else to as well,” Walensky said.

Cassidy said he was told that north of 75 percent of CDC employees who
had worked from the agency’s headquarters in Atlanta are still working
remotely, which Walensky declined to confirm but also did not deny.
She said the agency was following federal guidelines.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases, testifies to a Senate panel in Washington on Nov.
4, 2021. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

The CDC’s director and Dr. Anthony Fauci, another top health official
in the administration, were also pressed during the hearing about the
administration’s push to get virtually every American vaccinated
against the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes
COVID-19—even Americans who have contracted the illness and recovered,
giving them some level of immunity.

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) speaks in Washington on May 11, 2021. (Greg
Nash/Pool/Getty Images)

Burr noted that a real-world Israeli study found natural immunity, or
that protection, was higher than the protection conferred by Pfizer’s
vaccine, and other research has indicated that natural immunity
results in memory B cells that keep protecting for up to one year
after recovery. He also referred to the CDC’s recent brief that says
natural immunity lasts for at least six months.

Walensky downplayed the data, claiming that the studies showing
vaccines provide protection are more robust than those supporting
natural immunity. “The data on infection-induced immunity, some of
which you quoted, are murkier. They rely on retrospective studies,
observational studies, and studies where we can’t do a prospective
study,” she said.

Walensky touted a recently published CDC study that was said to have
determined that people who remained unvaccinated and had natural
immunity were about five times more likely to contract COVID-19. That
study was also retrospective and criticized by some experts in
comparison to the Israeli research.

Cassidy, a doctor, later said that the alleged lack of robust data on
natural immunity seemed to be correctable. “Why have we not done the
research?” he asked.

“I’m told you have patient-identifiable data,” which would allow the
agency to examine the issue, he added.

Fauci said that natural immunity and vaccination lead to memory B cell
and T cell responses.

“One of the goals over the next several months, which are currently
being done by our grantees, is to determine the clinical correlation
between the development and maturation of B cell and T cell responses
and clinical effect. We’re looking at that both post-vaccination,
post-boost, and in individuals who have been infected,” he said.
“Hopefully we’ll get more definitive information over the next several

Rand Paul Accuses Fauci Of Using "Smarmy Word Salad" To Cover Up His Lying

Following another intense clash between Anthony Fauci and Rand Paul at
a hearing Thursday, the Senator later declared that “no amount of
smarmy word salad will get Fauci out of the fact that he lied before

Appearing on Fox News after the Senate hearing, Paul noted that “The
NIH has admitted” that gain of function research funded by their
agency took place at the Wuhan labs, but that “Fauci won’t admit it
because I think he then thinks he’ll have some kind of moral
responsibility for the pandemic.”

Paul further reiterated that Fauci “changed the definition” of gain of
function on the NIH website, a point that he confronted Fauci with at
the earlier hearing, and which Fauci denied.

    “It sounds like a lot of government doublespeak,” Paul said of the
NIH’s word play, adding.

    “He doesn’t get it, he hasn’t learned anything from this and he
doesn’t want to take any responsibility. He’s been the number one
advocate for gain of function research and now he acts as if ‘oh it
doesn’t exist and we never did it,’ but they just changed the
definition, sort of like flushing it down the memory hole.”

Paul further urged that Fauci is “trying to redefine” the definition
of gain of function, noting “he’s using a sort of smarmy word salad to
try to get around the fact that it happened.”


In a further op-ed published by Fox News, Paul urged that “Defining
away gain-of-function research by saying it doesn’t exist unless you
know in advance it will occur is the very essence of hubris.”

Elsewhere in the interview Paul addressed the news that the federal
government is pressing ahead with a January deadline for vaccine
mandates for businesses.

    “I think they are unlawful and unconstitutional,” Paul said of the
mandates, adding “We need to take them to court and people need to
stand up and resist.”

“What a disservice to our first responders and doctors,” Paul
continued, noting “they had to show up for work when there was no
vaccine, a lot of them got COVID, survived and now have natural
immunity, and Fauci and the rest say ‘sorry, you’re yesterday’s

    I applaud businesses who are standing up for the right to
determine with their employees what workplace policies make sense for
them. And I applaud groups like the Job Creators Network who are
taking the challenge to this rule to court.
    — Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) November 4, 2021

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