[spam][joke][cryptotragedy] checking signatures on boot media

Karl gmkarl at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 09:14:26 PDT 2021


On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 11:31 AM Stefan Claas <
spam.trap.mailing.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 1:44 AM Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > do you argue against keysigning because of the dangers produced by
> spreading documentation of personal connections? it seems like an important
> trust mechanism to provide for people who can hold any risk of using it.
>
> I used public key cryptography before PGP was invented and how the WoT
> is managed I do not like.
>
> Why give away to third parties the persons who signed your key,
> instead of local signing, which can
> be done too? And you can't trust signed pub keys from key signing
> parties, because people can show
> fake passports. Nor you can trust signatures made remotely by Joe user
> average, who simply downloaded
> your key and gave you a fan sig.
>

isn't this coverable by owner trust?  my gnupg asks me to specify how much
I trust the verifications made by others, before trusting signature chains
going through them

anyway the wot has serious issues but there are also very few decentralised
trust protocols out there, it seems great that one is normalised

but yeah improvements sorely needed

> obviously without an out of band channel for cryptographic trust you have
> no way of knowing anything on the internet is real
>
> But it looks to me that you can handle this, otherwise, you would not
> use it, right? :-)
>

it's like shopping at walmart when you're penniless in a remote area.
sure, they won't give anyone in your town a job, but they're all you can
afford so you become a reliable client.

I appreciate how spamming this channel gives me psychological relief and
[memory aid, records are hard for me].  But I do need reality to escape my
psychosis.

Your emails appear unsigned to me.  I assume this is because they are
coming through some form of govcorp, manipulating us both in some way.
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