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Karl gmkarl at gmail.com
Sun May 30 10:06:10 PDT 2021


[spam] just forwarding my messages with Greg during downtime to the list.

When confused, share and preserve, that's my motto.


On Thu, May 27, 2021, 4:10 PM Greg Newby <gbnewby at pglaf.org> wrote:

> Here are the 900+ logfile messages for your email address, in case you
> find anything informative.
>
> As noted, I've made a few changes. These include:
> - turning off outbound spamassassin for cypherpunks list traffic, via
> whitelist
> - adding a bad spamc.cf setting, then fixing it (pertains to maximum
> message length of messages, which isn't a factor in the cpunks list)
> - removing blacklist checking, as mentioned on the list
>
> The bounce score in Mailman isn't much of an issue: if you get
> unsubscribed, I can easily add you back. But I don't know where those
> bounces came from - Mailman doesn't provide an easy way, even for a list
> admin, to recover specific bounce details.
>
> I'm not paranoid about surveillance on the cypherpunks list, since it's an
> open list with open archives. The subscriber list is kept confidential
> within Mailman (so only I can see it), but anyone that could tap the
> network would know who messages were going to. So, it's confidential, but
> barely secure.
>
> The standard techniques like John linked to are much more likely to be
> damaging, or potentially damaging, to the cypherpunks list:
> https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
>
> Meanwhile, though, it's distressing that gmail seems to be filtering. I
> indeed confirmed that a list message went to the spam folder, but it was
> visible there (i.e., it didn't simply disappear, for me).
>
> Best,
>   Greg
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 01:23:10PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> > >> Maybe some day a cronjob that filters logs for only people who post,
> > >> or only who have an option set, could make for public logs eventually
> > >> ...
> > >
> > > Yes, that would be aligned with the transparency that is the
> philosophy of
> > > the list.
> > >   Best,
> > >     Greg
> > >
> >
> > grep --fixed-strings --file=one_email_address_per_line.txt
> > /var/log/mailman/bounce.log > public_logfile
> >
> > mailman is written in python; i'm thinking of how hackable it might be.
> >
> > sorry to be bugging you, it's sad the bounces don't show up in the
> > logs =S  really some malicious sotware could be messing with us.
> > cleaning logfiles is such a basic part of malicious software.
>
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