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Fri Jul 30 05:16:29 PDT 2021

I was having a delusional experience during the two days of these events,
but I like to think I held it together relatively well.

I sent this to coderman and have not heard further yet; I hope coderman is
well.

Sharing this with list for archive and transparency.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:13 PM Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 7:42 PM Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi coderman.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:56 PM coderman <coderman at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA512
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Monday, July 26th, 2021 at 4:15 PM, Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > One of the goals here is to protect the content from being mutated by
>>> storing signable running hashes.
>>> >
>>> > That goal is not quite met yet.
>>> >
>>> > Raw mail data rocks in my pro-surveillance opinion, but obviously you
>>> need signatures.
>>>
>>> going forward, i'll include detached signatures. i will also note
>>> SHA2-256 digests.
>>> ( the latter more quantum resistant in a future where universal QC
>>> exists :)
>>>
>>
>> This sounds strong.  I'm dissociated further at the moment while I honor
>> the shreds remaining of my sense of death and tears.  I experienced mind
>> control around feelings of care for cecilia on talking to her.  It's
>> intense and confusing.
>>
>> I was kind of confused when I expressed the concern above regarding raw
>> and signatures.  I meant the signatures in the messages, which you already
>> included; I was misled by the .txt extension.  I've been confused all day.
>>
>> What's important is that people need a way to preserve and share evidence
>> that is nation-state resistant and easy to use.
>>
>> (So they don't get killed to cover things up, I suppose)
>>
>> If the list meets the preservation and share goal, it helps for people
>> who happen to be on it.  If those people are devving software that helps,
>> it helps further.
>>
>> Sorry I am so confused.
>>
>> You've clearly experienced the "changes" , too.  Do you still remember
>> your own emotions?  Do you have new emotions that are strong?
>>
>> It's a little painful to see the other posts with the cecilia one, but I
>> also suspect some people process things by doing work.  I've done that.
>>
>> I don't really think my internet is real.  Once Cecilia told me you had
>> made a mysogynistic post, and when I asked what it was and mentioned you
>> had backed me up when I had concerns of rape in my area, she changed what
>> she said and said your post was technical.  ... maybe my internet is real
>> in those ways I dunno ... I was saying more things but my mc stepped in
>> again.
>>
>
> I realised that this was really mean.  That was probably my programming to
> disrupt the community.  I suspect she was just handling something similar
> and you didn't make such a post.  She sent me a lot of trump-ish
> (mysogynist) messages herself privately when acting threatened.  When I
> responded differently our communications were cut for some time.
>
> So I guess it's so harsh because it's automatic, just some distant RL
>> algorithms or such.  Dunno.
>>
>> I spoke with Marxos today.  I seemed to leave them pretty sad.  Hope you
>> are well.
>>
>
> Marxos's facebook profile mentions suicde like you and me so he better not
> kill himself over this or anything.  He seems kinda dreamy himself.  I
> looked at some of his software projects and one of them had something that
> read like a complaint of not doing what he chose, to me.
>
> This shit is crazy but we're going to get through it somehow.  The caring
> human spirits are all there, just shoved into corners so that they act less.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> > > It's super to make an additional copy!
>>> >
>>> > It's super to make an additional copy!
>>>
>>> agreed; thank you for the additional reference!
>>>
>>>
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