USA 2020 Elections: Thread

grarpamp grarpamp at
Sat Jul 10 13:23:44 PDT 2021

Donald J Trump won the 2020 US Presidential Election.

Darryl Cooper: Why Trump Supporters Are Pissed Off And Don't Trust Anything

As the ruling class went to absurd lengths to try and dismantle Donald
Trump, pissed off supporters watched in horror as a captured media
peddled lie after lie - typically based on anonymous leaks from deep
state bureaucrats, and as  powerful agents within America's
intelligence apparatus falsified evidence and collaborated with
foreign operatives paid by Trump's political opponents.

In doing so, they exposed themselves to anyone not already paying attention.

Darryl Cooper, aka @MartyrMade, has assembled what might be the most
accurate summation of why Trump supporters - the vast majority of
conservatives - are livid after the past five years. Cooper, a
researcher and writer, is the co-host of The Unraveling Podcast with
retired US Navy SEAL commander Jocko Willink, and has hosted several
deep-dive podcasts on a number of topics.

Read below:

    Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight
ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them
is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from
Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to
them. 2/x
    — MartyrMade (@martyrmade) July 8, 2021

Here are the facts - actual, confirmed facts - that shape their
perspective: 1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using
evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all
involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan's July 2016 memo,
etc). These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a
pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes
in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign
using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.

Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could.
We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of
a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we
have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew. This was true
with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff - who were on TV
saying they'd seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while
admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn't - all the
way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake.

At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion,
because every media & intel agency wouldn't make it up out of nothing.
When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a
reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov't when it didn't
happen. We know as fact: a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence
used to justify spying on the Trump campaign, b) The FBI knew the
Steele dossier was a DNC op, c) Steele's source told the FBI the info
was unserious, d) they did not inform the court of any of this and
kept spying.

Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went
from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be
fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution -
agencies, the press, Congress, academia - gaslit them for another
year. Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in
the administration. They knew their entire lives would be
investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal
fees. The DoJ, press, & gov't destroyed lives and actively subverted
an elected admin.

This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a
naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the
outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because
it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper. GOP
propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan
binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not
partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken
opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.

It's hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking
of gov't as a conspiracy... Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how
shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons
to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don't stand for the Anthem.
They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government.
But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized
them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or
gov't official, because they feel most betrayed by them. The idea that
the press is driven by ratings/sensationalism became untenable. If
that were true, they'd be all over the Epstein story. The corporate
press is the propaganda arm of the Regime they now see in outline.
Nothing anyone says will ever make them unsee that, period.

This is profoundly disorienting. Many of them don't know for certain
whether ballots were faked in November 2020, but they know for
absolute certain that the press, the FBI, etc would lie to them if
there was. They have every reason to believe that, and it's probably
true. They watched the press behave like animals for four years. Tens
of millions of people will always see Kavanaugh as a gang rapist,
based on nothing, because of CNN. And CNN seems proud of that. They
led a lynch mob against a high school kid. They cheered on a summer of

They always claimed the media had liberal bias, fine, whatever. They
still thought the press would admit truth if they were cornered. Now
they don't. It's a different thing to watch them invent stories whole
cloth in order to destroy regular lives and spark mass violence. Time
Mag told us that during the 2020 riots, there were weekly conference
calls involving, among others, leaders of the protests, the local
officials who refused to stop them, and media people who framed them
for political effect. In Ukraine we call that a color revolution.

Throughout the summer, Democrat governors took advantage of COVID to
change voting procedures. It wasn't just the mail-ins (they lowered
signature matching standards, etc). After the collusion scam, the fake
impeachment, Trump ppl expected shenanigans by now. Re: "fake
impeachment", we now know that Trump's request for Ukraine to
cooperate w/the DOJ regarding Biden's $ activities in Ukraine was in
support of an active investigation being pursued by the FBI and
Ukraine AG at the time, and so a completely legitimate request.

Then you get the Hunter laptop scandal. Big Tech ran a full-on
censorship campaign against a major newspaper to protect a political
candidate. Period. Everyone knows it, all of the Tech companies now
admit it was a "mistake" - but, ya know, the election's over, so who
cares? Goes w/o saying, but: If the NY Times had Don Jr's laptop, full
of pics of him smoking crack and engaging in group sex, lots of lurid
family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the
CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn't have been banned.

    The way liberal journalists just ignore what was, to me, one of
the most repressive events of the Trump years -- Big Tech **censored**
reporting on the Hunter Biden docs about Joe's business deals to help
Dems -- is still stunning. 3 weeks before the election, they barred
    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 9, 2021

Think back: Stories about Trump being pissed on by Russian prostitutes
and blackmailed by Putin were promoted as fact, and the only evidence
was a document paid for by his opposition and disavowed by its source.
The NY Post was banned for reporting on true information. The reaction
of Trump ppl to all this was not, "no fair!" That's how they felt
about Romney's "binders of women" in 2012. This is different. Now they
see, correctly, that every institution is captured by ppl who will use
any means to exclude them from the political process. And yet they
showed up in record numbers to vote. He got 13m more votes than in
2016, 10m more than Clinton got! As election night dragged on, they
allowed themselves some hope. But when the four critical swing states
(and only those states) went dark at midnight, they knew.

Over the ensuing weeks, they got shuffled around by grifters and media
scam artists selling them conspiracy theories. They latched onto one,
then another increasingly absurd theory as they tried to put a
concrete name on something very real  Media & Tech did everything to
make things worse. Everything about the election was strange - the
changes to procedure, unprecedented mail-in voting, the delays, etc -
but rather than admit that and make everything transparent, they
banned discussion of it (even in DMs!).

Everyone knows that, just as Don Jr's laptop would've been the story
of the century, if everything about the election dispute was the same,
except the parties were reversed, suspicions about the outcome
would've been Taken Very Seriously. See 2016 for proof.

Even the courts' refusal of the case gets nowhere w/them, because of
how the opposition embraced mass political violence. They'll say,
w/good reason: What judge will stick his neck out for Trump knowing
he'll be destroyed in the media as a violent mob burns down his house?
It's a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned
in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were "protests",
but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and
everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too.

Forget the ballot conspiracies. It's a fact that governors used COVID
to unconstitutionally alter election procedures (the Constitution
states that only legislatures can do so) to help Biden to make up for
a massive enthusiasm gap by gaming the mail-in ballot system. They
knew it was unconstitutional, it's right there in plain English. But
they knew the cases wouldn't see court until after the election. And
what judge will toss millions of ballots because a governor broke the
rules? The threat of mass riots wasn't implied, it was direct.

a) The entrenched bureaucracy & security state subverted Trump from
Day 1, b) The press is part of the operation, c) Election rules were
changed, d) Big Tech censors opposition, e) Political violence is
legitimized & encouraged, f) Trump is banned from social media.

They were led down some rabbit holes, but they are absolutely right
that their gov't is monopolized by a Regime that believes they are
beneath representation, and will observe no limits to keep them
getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might've kept him


    As long as you’re here, check out my podcast. The most recent
episode was on the Soviet takeover of Eastern Europe. There’s also a
series on the early history of the Israeli-Arab conflict, and one on
Jim Jones’ Peoples’ Temple movement.
    — MartyrMade (@martyrmade) July 8, 2021

    This is an absolutely brilliant exposition on the underlying
mindset, grievances and motivations of Trump/MAGA supporters. It's not
as cathartic as screaming Racist and Fascist but much more
illuminating. Don't agree with every particular, etc. etc., but hope
everyone reads this:
    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 9, 2021

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