Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment - Stundin

Karl gmkarl at
Mon Jul 5 14:18:47 PDT 2021

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 5:08 PM David Barrett <dbarrett at> wrote:

> Again, you have sent another email that avoids to state any kind of
> specific opinion.  You are frustrated that I am putting words in your
> mouth, but it can't help but do so because you aren't saying anything.
> You haven't agreed that our justice system should carry out warrants, but
> you also haven't indicated when it should not.
> You haven't agreed that justice should happen in courts, but you also
> haven't said it shouldn't be.
> You haven't really said anything at all that can be pinned down to a
> specific defined position.
> Maybe just to sanity check, why are you in this conversation? Are you
> trying to refine

I feel upset and disconnected (feeling are reasons, remember: they directly
drive our actions via our understanding of things).  I want to know I can
be friends with you without compromising on what I care about.  I want to
know we can agree.  It's so hard, and I know we can do it.

and articulate a specific opinion? Because that's my goal, I want to
> understand actual policies that we can implement and follow, in order to
> make this world a better place.

I didn't know that.

Wouldn't it be great if mediation were a formal alternative to criminal
trials, and were provided free by our government to resolve any other
conflicts?  Wouldn't it be great if using it were normalised?

Wouldn't it be great if new officials' activities were all publicly logged,
for any citizen to watch their behavior?  Then we could resolve so so many
debates about what is really going on.
Implementing that would also need a way to protect them from minority harm.

Wouldn't it be great if profit-motivated information dispersal were to not
happen?  Then people would have much more fair exposure to what happens, to
guide their opinions.

If your goal is exclusively to complain about other people doing bad jobs
> without giving them any specific advice on how to do it better, that's not
> very interesting or useful.

Who is doing a bad job?

Everything you do, you are doing the best you possibly can.  Any living
creature can't help but do this.

We often learn we need to follow rules and obey regulations.  But what's
important is doing what is best for everyone, what is most right, in every

This doesn't mean every individual gets to set what the law is.  It means
that people need to act in ways they can when it is crucial to do so, and
talk to each other about what is real, what they know, and what the
actually best course of action is.

Today we have many situations we aren't familiar with treating with laws,
for example abuses that involve AI.  But we can figure all of these out.
There are always innumerable ways; we just don't always think of them on
our own.

> David
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 2:03 PM Karl <gmkarl at> wrote:
>> Anyway if you can honestly help someone in need like Assange, please do
>> so.  Otherwise please focus on fixing the world.
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