Re: Sicherheit für Daten - und Hacker

zeynepaydogan zeynepaydogan at protonmail.com
Mon Dec 27 10:51:10 PST 2021


Thanks for advice :) i will read the book when i have more time:)

Açık Pzt, Ara 27, 2021 21:00, Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists at gmail.com> yazdı:

> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:14 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:55:09 +0100
>> Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 5:44 PM zeynepaydogan
>> > <zeynepaydogan at protonmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/chaoscomputerclub-kongress-101.html
>> > >
>> > > Auch in diesem Jahr findet der Kongress des Chaos Computer Clubs wegen der Pandemie lediglich digital statt. Das Thema IT-Sicherheit steht diesmal im Mittelpunkt - aber auch, wie man Hacker besser schützen kann, die Sicherheitsmängel melden.
>> >
>> > Thanks Zeynep,
>> >
>> > IMHO there will be never IT security because devices for digital communications
>> > and their software are *consumer* goods.
>>
>>
>> There will never be security for the users because the manufacturer is the government. Jim Bell's government.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hacker's may think of 'renaming' their status and become officially
>> > penetration testers.
>>
>>
>> Exactly. They are just govcorp turds working for govcorp.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Regarding the CCC. I remember them from the beginning and remember from that
>> > time that they had also 'moles' among them,
>>
>> shocking.
>>
>>
>> > without knowing it and nowadays, they stay in bed with our political parties and main stream media, so it seems. For real hackers IMHO a no go.
>>
>>
>> indeed, it doesn't take much research to learn that the CCC is just a branch of the CIA.
>
> I like to add to this, that my guess is, due to those above-mentioned
> design flaws,
> that only Hacker Units from Russia, China, North Korea etc. can
> 'survive', because
> they are IMHO somehow protected.
>
> And for a nice reading about a hacker or as a movie, if people still can get it,
> I recommend Clifford Stoll's book.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg_(book)
>
> Regards
> Stefan
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