What is Real? was Re: Review Finds No Answers to Mystery of Havana Syndrome

[Karl]

On 12/5/21, Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:40 PM Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/5/21, Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:14 PM Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Cool, Stefan.
>> >
>> > Thanks Karl.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Oh, very interesting and indeed 3D with 3D printing cool things can be
>> > done.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> > Well, I can tell you my friend Jotero (Torolf Sauermann from Hannover,
>> > Germany), is probably the worlds top ace if it comes to computer
>> > generated
>> > math art model, including fractals and procedural stuff.
>> >
>> > But unfortunately (he is a really nice person) he was many times
>> > ripped-off
>> > from big companies and others and he nowadays is only on Instagram,
>> > showing his artworks) He is AFAIK also well connected to other aces in
>> > this field, but it never helped him. Simply google for him and if you
>> > like
>> > to contact him (he understands English) I can give you his email
>> > address.
>>
>> But where is the source code repository for people to combine their
>> work together?
>
> Real Artist in this field have no repositories like GitHub, Gitlab etc.
> to my knowledge.
>
> University Professors in this field have sometimes free software
> on their webpage or upon request.

This is crazy what you say, is the year 1999?  How did this happen?

Github presently has over 73 million developers and 4 million
organizations, codeberg.org has 10k repositories, gitlab has over 100k
organizations.  Some of those developers must be 3d printing artists
sharing code.

> In the case of my friend Jotero he uses a combination of licensed
> and nowadays mostly Open Source tools, where he combines
> techniques usually not found on the Internet to protect himself
> from copy cats etc. What he does also requires exploring and
> diving deep into math formulas etc. or parameter sets. and people
> like these professors were than often surprised at what he could
> do with their tools and his workflow. Decades ago he wrote also
> a path tracer, which yielded back at that time awesome results,
> but he gained also nothing from that, same goes for 3D printing.

Are you saying people are leaving the maker philosophy of sharing
crafting resources because they aren't haven success as entrepreuners?

Those things your friend built sound lots of fun.

>> I didn't really know; when did that happen?  It is so strange to me,
>> this is very much not what I expect, although I'm kind of confused :)
>
> I can't tell you. I am not that long on this ML and when I meet the
> Cypherpunks way back in the early '90s it was on Usenet and via
> personal email.

Mm, maybe this is not the the real list or something.