Freedom of Speech: Islam

Zenaan Harkness zen at freedbms.net
Fri Oct 30 16:47:36 PDT 2020


On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:54:06PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:48:29 +1000
> jamesd at echeque.com wrote:
> 
> > On 2020-10-31 06:23, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:01:14 -0400
> > > grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> "Open borders to all, teach Islam in schools -- Joe Biden"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	of course open borders (no state borders) is one of the most basic libertarian positions. 
> > 
> > 
> > Notice that BatSoup, though theoretically opposed to the security
> > agencies spying on us, demonizes Snowden, 
> 
> 	I don't demonize snowden, I simply see him as an 'ex' US military
> 	criminal, 'ex' CIA criminal and 'ex' NSA criminal. Likewise, I see
> 	his 'revelations' as barely revealing anything new and having caused
> 	little to no harm to his government. Something that snowden himself
> 	keeps repeating. 

Snowden wants to return to America.

It's true that what he did appears to have damaged him more than the
Empire.

We ought allow people to change - especially when it is in a positive
direction, and so "forever naming" someone's negative past, though
factual, may reduce support for their positive change.

There is a balance where sometimes "acknowledgement" of someone's
positives, -especially- if these positives are in the face of a negative
past, may help sustain those positives - yes, the man that requires
external acks has a bit to learn but hey, when trying to improve our
shared world, we work with what we got, right?



> > fails to mention that security
> > agencies, trained and organized to spread disinformation that overthrows
> > foreign governments, are industriously spreading disinformation to
> > overthrow the American government and prevent democracy.
> 
> 	you're saying that the CIA (that is the US govt) is trying to overthrow the US govt? The US govt is trying to overthrow itself? Sounds confused...
> 
> 
> > prevent democracy.
> 
> 	and that last bit...WUT? Now you're a 'democrat'? I thought you hated democrats? By definition right wingers are pro-monarchy and anti-democracy. I guess you're a lefty now? 




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